| Title: | The Joy of Lex | 
| Notice: | A Notes File even your grammar could love | 
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| Created: | Fri Feb 28 1986 | 
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Well, I have searched through the directory of this conference and tried a directory of notes with the text 'zero' imbedded, but to no avail. Therefore, this question: What is meant by the phrase: "a zero sum game" Based the context of the places I have seen it used, I have a mental picture of what it means, but would like to know more about the source or derivation of the phrase. Speculation will be enjoyed, but information will be most appreciated. jlb
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| 1029.1 | From game theory | TLE::JBISHOP | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:53 | 10 | |
|     A game where the sum of winnings and losses is zero.  Most
    gambling is a zero-sum game.
    
    "Game" is technical term for a set of transactions governed
    by a set of rules, here.
    
    Some games have negative sums (each transaction reduces the
    total amount of "goodness"), some a positive sum.
    
    		-John Bishop
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| 1029.2 | RDVAX::KALIKOW | Unintelligiblets | Fri Mar 05 1993 14:47 | 14 | |
|     Hmmm.  I have nothing to add to .1, but your .0, coupled with your
    1024.9, lead me to believe that the truncation at column 80 of the text
    of 1024.9 was not a lovely self-referential, intentional hack, but
    rather, an unfortunate result of some subtler mismatch between the
    editing and display environment you use for VAXnotes, and the terminal
    interface I habitually use, both on my VAXstation and on my PC.
    
    And it was a lovely illusion I hope not to give up, without giving you
    one more chance to claim that your 1029.0, too, was also intentionally
    given with this truncation for some other reason I am too dull to divine...?
    
    :-)
    
    Dan
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| 1029.3 | NOVA::FISHER | DEC Rdb/Dinosaur | Sat Mar 06 1993 05:14 | 6 | |
|     So a game in which some "authority" keeps a little bit of each
    transaction would be "negative sum"?  As in tax stamps for
    real estate transfers, broker fees for stock transfers, or
    house keeps x% of each pot in a poker game?
    
    ed
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| 1029.4 | I don't know whether time-value is included in GT | TLE::JBISHOP | Mon Mar 08 1993 12:08 | 6 | |
|     re .3
    
    Yes, but the larger game (which includes the "authority" as a
    player) is zero-sum.
    
    		-John Bishop
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| 1029.5 | RAGMOP::T_PARMENTER | Human. All too human. | Tue Mar 09 1993 06:27 | 5 | |
|     In common parlance, in a zero-sum game my gain is your loss, that is,
    there's no compound interest or free lunch, there's just what's on the
    table.
    
    
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