Conference thebay::joyoflex

Insomuch, insofar, inasmuch.

	How does the seat of the pants get so shiny?

	Notwithstanding

	nevertheless, nonetheless

	bytheway :-)

nevertheless  whithersoever

how's 'bout 4?  inasmuchas  (or is that three plus?)

>how's 'bout 4?  inasmuchas  (or is that three plus?)

I thought it was two. And Spanish.

:-)

Arie

    
    Therefore.
   
        
    Aaron

    Idaknow, whatchamacallit.

>                          -< 'skweat (Let's go eat) >-

If you accept that one, I would like to share a Dutch one:

                       'tsr (wat is er)

meaning: "what's the matter".

Arie

		Albeit	

	Okay, so what's a word describing this category of "word"?

	Dan

    Re .12:
    
    "Etribusunum"
    
    "E Tribus Unum" appears on the town seal of West Newbury, MA.  It
    probably also appears on the seals of Newbury and Newburyport.
    
    And, of course, it fits the topic...
    
    >M

It strikes me as odd that words in this category (relaxing, for the sake of
additional examples, the strict Rule of Three) fall into two sub-categories 
with entirely distinct characters:

1. Informal, humorous, whimsical, slang:  "whodunit", "whaddayacallit", 
   "gweet" (for "[let's] go eat"), etc.

2. Formal, stilted, even humorously and whimsically so:  "nonetheless", 
   "heretofore", etc.

I can't distinguish between these sub-categories any further than to observe
that newly-coined words are in the informal group, and older ones are in the 
formal group.  Does this distinction imply that "whodunit" will someday be a
humorously stilted word?  Perhaps the embedded grammo will delay that fate...

    ased (as I said)

    
    Re: .14
    
    > 1. Informal, humorous, whimsical, slang:  "whodunit" ...
    
    > Does this distinction imply that "whodunit" will someday be a
      humorously stilted word?
    
    As I mentioned in the base note, "whodunit" appears in some
    dictionaries as an acceptable word, defined as: a detective or mystery
    story presented as a novel, play, or motion picture.

    "Umm" == "I heard what you said. I do not agree. I do not disagree.
                             ^
              I do not wish to comment further."
                                 ^^
    Bill

    G'day,
    
    
    Now Lewis Carroll loved 'portmanteau' words, and these must come close
    to that category, and since, by an earlier definition, thesse
    threeinones are stilted,
    
    perhaps these are 'Tallboy' words? or would that have to be
    a 'tallyoungmalechild' word?
    
    derek
    

    
    
    Howbout "Djeetyet"?  (Did you eat yet?)

    
    re: .20:
    
    	Djeetjet? 	The usual reply is: "notjetjoo?"
    
    	How about: 
    
    		'Caljabudja', as in "I caljabudja weren't home so I
    				     left a message on yer machine."
    
    	-- Glinch
    
    
    
    

    Wherewithal  Whereupon(?)  Whensoever  Nevertheless  are mostly
    OK but how about...
    
    Nightingale! Newfoundland? Trinitroluene the last of which could
    cause an explosion of indignation!
    
    I think my dictionary is full of them so I'll stop tri-ing.
    
    Bucko...

    �I think my dictionary is full of them 
    
    Yes. People who stick words together (usually for some
    historical reason - like a leap in technology, but often
    because of some other need [like the simple lack of a one-word
    ready-made alternative]) often create new words.  My favourite's
    `atone' (being the agglutination of at and one); but that only
    has two roots [unless, of course - I wonder what the derivation of
    `one' is ...]
    
    b

       
       Gladiator
       
       --Mr Topaz

    I
    thoughttheyranwordstogetherbecausetherewasn'tenoughroomonthelinetogetitallin
    

    Compounding of existing words or word parts has historically been
    the English language's favorite way of creating new words.
    
    Latin prefixes, Greek suffixes, nouns and verbs from every
    language we've had contact with -- and they all get mishmashed
    together into new words to suit the needs of the day.  
    
    Whether those words are written as one word (another), a
    hyphenated word (number-cruncher), or as two words (jumbo jet) is
    fairly random, though they tend to start as hyphenated and move to
    one end or the other.
    
    --bonnie
    

    Re .-1
    
    I hadn't thought of that (about moving from the hyphenated form to
    either one or two words).  I'd noticed the randomness, but guessed
    that the movement was from two (or more) words (e.g. black bird)
    via the hypenated form to one word (e.g. blackbird) - not that
    that's much of an example anyway, as a female blackbird is a brown
    bird.
    
    Thanks for the info.
    
    b

    Well, sometimes it does go that way.  The only thing consistent
    about the English language is its consistency.
    
    And its wonderful, powerful, dynamism.
    
    --bonnie
    

    ...is its INconsistency.
    
    					andrew

    Thank you.  That's what I meant to say.
    
    I'll plead brain malfunction caused by maternity leave . . .
    
    --bonnie