| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
|---|
| 689.1 |  | PSTJTT::TABER | handy hints for around the home | Wed Jun 28 1989 19:32 | 8 | 
|  | I wouldn't think so.  I believe you can have very good manners and still
be inconsiderate.  I take manners to be the way you interact socially,
but consideration is your awareness of others.  I like to think I have
good manners when I'm aware of others, but I'm sadly inconsiderate in 
that I often forget to be aware.  The confusion probably arrises because
many people pretend to be unaware when they are purposely bad-mannered.
					>>>==>PStJTT
 | 
| 689.2 |  | SSDEVO::GOLDSTEIN |  | Thu Jun 29 1989 16:04 | 5 | 
|  |     I should think that one could also have impeccable manners and yet be
    quite inconsiderate.  In fact, that might not be a bad definition of
    'diplomacy.'
    
    Bernie
 | 
| 689.3 |  | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Thu Jun 29 1989 23:46 | 1 | 
|  |     I've heard that a "gentleman" never offends anybody accidentally.
 | 
| 689.4 |  | SSDEVO::GOLDSTEIN |  | Fri Jun 30 1989 16:21 | 12 | 
|  |     It may also be possible to have bad manners and yet be considerate.
    This would certainly be the case if bad manners entail merely a failure
    to say 'please' and 'thank you.'  If bad manners entail downright
    rudeness, then I am not sure whether one could be both bad mannered and
    considerate.
    
    
    Re: .3
    
    Odd, I've heard the same thing said of the Hell's Angels.
    
    Bernie
 |