| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 220.1 |  | NOGOV::GOODENOUGH | Jeff Goodenough, IPG Reading-UK | Thu Jul 17 1986 06:41 | 8 | 
|  |     "Dear Sir or Madam," is quite common here, though "Dear Sirs," (plural)
    is, I would guess, equally common.  Bigenderizing this (yes, I'm
    trying to get into another note) into "Dear Sirs or Mesdames" would
    be horrific :-)
    
    How about "Hey you," ?
    
    Jeff.
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| 220.2 | Mesdames et Messieurs: | PROSE::WAJENBERG |  | Thu Jul 17 1986 08:30 | 9 | 
|  |     I'd use "Dear Sir or Madam:" for singulars and "Ladies and Gentlemen:"
    for plurals.  If there was a handy title, I might substitute that
    for the name: "Dear Editor:" or "Dear Doctor:" or "Dear Professor:."
    
    People who announce themselves as a pair of initials and a surname
    should be prepared to receive letters addressed to all manner of
    genders.
    
    Earl Wajenberg
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| 220.3 | No greeting...present your message. | APTECH::RSTONE |  | Thu Jul 17 1986 09:29 | 13 | 
|  |     Back in one of the earlier discussions concerning sex and gender,
    I entered my thoughts on the "Greeting" in a business letter.  I
    have taken the attitude that if the use of a greeting line is awkward,
    don't bother using one.  Who needs it?  What purpose does it serve
    other than conformance to formality or a traditional custom.  That
    element of courtesy may now have to be weighed against the
    consideration of the more sensitive issue of an unintended offense
    to the recipient.
    
    I see nothing wrong with using the company address, with possibly
    a line referencing a position title, followed immediately by the
    message which you wish to convey.
    
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| 220.4 |  | ERIS::CALLAS | Jon Callas | Thu Jul 17 1986 12:21 | 4 | 
|  |     In what way is "Dear Sir or Madam" pretentious? I thought it was the
    preferred greeting. 
    
    	Jon
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| 220.5 | Discussed before | DEREP::CANTOR | Dave Cantor | Thu Jul 17 1986 12:42 | 3 | 
|  |       See also the discussion at 143.20ff.
      
      Dave C.
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| 220.6 | Use Latin | BISTRO::TIMMER | Rien Timmer, Valbonne. | Fri Jul 18 1986 06:07 | 8 | 
|  | 	In those cases when I'm not sure I often use:
    
    		L.S.	(Lectori Salutem)
    
    	I don't think that's offending to anyone.
    
    Rien.
    
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| 220.7 | Huh? | APTECH::RSTONE |  | Fri Jul 18 1986 08:46 | 5 | 
|  |     Re: .6
    
    I don't know that it will offend anyone, but it probably will confuse
    a goodly percentage of the recipients. :^)
    
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| 220.8 | Why not "Dear Collegue"? | REX::MINOW | Martin Minow -- DECtalk Engineering | Fri Jul 18 1986 22:22 | 0 | 
| 220.9 | Nit alert! Nit alert! | SUPER::KENAH | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! | Sat Jul 19 1986 15:35 | 16 | 
|  |     re -1:  Better yet:  
    
    			Dear Colleague
                        
    (Sorry Martin, it's one of those misspellings that I can't ignore.)
    
    Back to original topic.  I either ignore the salutation, or use:
    
    Salutations:  
    
    I prefer this to "Greetings:"  
    
    (Anyone who was around in the late 60's will understand my aversion to
    this particular form af address.) 
    
    					andrew
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| 220.10 | What's wrong with "Greetings:" exactly? | ECCGY4::BARTA | Gabriel Barta/ESPRIT/Intl Eng/Munich | Sat Jul 19 1986 16:04 | 5 | 
|  | I was emphatically around in the 60s (though not in the U.S.), but I 
have no idea why "Greetings:" is any worse than "Salutations:" (which 
sounds French to me, b.t.w.).
Gabriel.
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| 220.11 | You have just "won"... | JON::MORONEY | Madman | Sat Jul 19 1986 20:12 | 6 | 
|  | re .-1:  About the most dreaded piece of correspondance a young male could 
receive in the '60s started out with "Greetings:".  It continued with how
the recipient was going to receive an all-expense paid trip, usually to
Viet Nam.
-Mike
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| 220.12 | I was there | DELNI::CANTOR | Dave Cantor | Sat Jul 19 1986 22:54 | 10 | 
|  |       re  Greetings:
      
      I *was* around in the 1960s and I *did* get that most dreaded
      piece of correspondence that began with the salutation
      'Greetings.'   I use it because it makes no assumption about
      the sex, social standing, marital status, educational level,
      or number of the addressee(s).  If a conversation then ensues
      about the 1960s, so much the better.
      
      Dave C.
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