| Title: | BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest | 
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The following note appeared recently in the Genealogy Notesfile.   Does 
anyone know why the American authorities kept these lists hidden and
under wraps for nearly *FIFTY YEARS*???!!!
I have been trying desparately for some years now, and my mother has been 
searching since the end of WWII for some scrap of information on what was
the fate of her parents Herman and Alma Zernik and brother Bernard and sister
Edith.
Jonathan Wreschner
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JOHNC1::AHERN "Dennis the Menace"                    15 lines  12-FEB-1992 22:05
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    According to an article on page 3 of today's Boston Globe, the American
    Red Cross is cataloging the names of concentration camp victims from 
    captured original Nazi records in the National Archives.  The documents 
    being  researched include transport lists, death lists, lists of
    victims of medical experiments, and forced labor and concentration camp
    records primarily from Auschwitz, Buchenwald and smaller camps that
    were liberated by Allied forces.  
    
    Yesterday they released the first microfilms containing 7,000 names to
    be cross referenced.  Eventually they expect to have vital information
    on  300,000 to 500,000 names. 
    
    It was also mentioned that the Red Cross also has 46 million records on
    13 million people, presumably military and refugees from WWII.
    
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| 1185.1 | sympathies | MEMIT::KIS | Wed Mar 18 1992 00:16 | 20 | |
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       Sorry, it must be just awful not to know anything about what
       happpened to one's familly! deep sympathies to your mother.
    
       I guess my father was "lucky" to have been approached by a
       photographer (in the early 40s in Palestine), who tried to
       sell him photos of his parents boarding the train to auwswitz..
       as he put it: Dressed in their 'Sunday' best thinking they 
       were being taken to safety.
    
    
       As for the 300,000 to 500,000 perished listed in those files...
       these numbers make me a bit uncomfortable; Because when I joined
       Digital 12 years ago, I worked with a Holocaust revisionist who
       believed that the Jewish people exagerated their losses. His 
       opinion was that only about 400,000 jews died.
    
       dk
    
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| 1185.2 | I think it's standard operating procedure | MINAR::BISHOP | Thu Mar 19 1992 18:12 | 23 | |
|     re .0, "Why hidden for fifty years?"
    
    It might not be malicious: it's a routine practice of the US 
    government not to release any records it owns which contain
    personal or private information until a substantial amount of
    time has passed since the record was collected.  I believe fifty
    years is a standard amount of time for this--in that case, this
    has been released early!
    
    The same delay is standard for military secrets: things get
    automatically down-graded after fifty years, so that historians
    get a chance to see the real treaties and real records of battles
    and so on (there's also a process for preventing down-grading
    if the secrets are still "hot"--we don't for example know the
    exact way the first two atom bombs were built).
    
    That's one of the reasons there's a mini-boom in WWII books: the
    1939..42 files have been opened now in both the US and Britain.
    
    You can argue that a compassionate exception should have been
    made for purposes of family re-union.
    
    		-John Bishop
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