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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:	BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:	1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:	SMURF::FENSTER

Created:	Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:	Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1524
Total number of notes:	18709

618.0. "Searching For Jewish Roots" by ABE::STARIN () Wed Jan 11 1989 17:17

    This is the first time I have accessed this conference (although
    I do read and contribute to the scj newsgroup).
    
    My family name was not always "Starin". Somewhere along the line
    it was changed from "Ster" (Dutch for "Star") or "Stern" (German
    for "Star") to "Starin" or "Staring" depending. The name is given
    as "Ster" in one version of the family geneaology and "Stern" in
    another.
    
    Questions:
    
    1. Anybody out there familiar enough with Judaism in the Netherlands to
    fill me in on whether I might have Jewish roots?
    
    2. Anybody else out there with a family name of "Starin" or "Ster"?
    
    Appreciate any and all assistance.
    
    Mark

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
618.1	Not trivial!	SUTRA::LEHKY	I'm phlegmatic, and that's cool	`Thu Jan 12 1989 04:40`	6
	I do know both Jewish and non-Jewish "Stern" families. Sorry, but you might have to start a genealogy search, probably, to really find out. Unhelpfully yours, Chris
618.2	See note 611	VAXWRK::ZAITCHIK	VAXworkers of the World Unite!	`Thu Jan 12 1989 10:27`	3
	Did you see note 611 ? It gives some pointers on starting a geneology search. -Zaitch
618.3	611 - Check	ABE::STARIN		`Thu Jan 12 1989 11:36`	17
	Re: .2 Thanks for that lead. I checked it out and will follow-up on it. Last year I checked the Encyclopedia Judaica for information about Jews in the Netherlands and found some circumstantial evidence but not much else (my family came from the Province of Guelderland which borders on Germany where there was a fairly large Jewish population at one time). If my search turns up positive results, it probably won't change anything because my mother is not Jewish (that I know of - her maiden name was Irvine and her mother's maiden name was Boeggeman (sp?)) but it would at least close some gaps. Thanks again. Mark
618.4	Another possible Source	STEREO::LEVINE		`Thu Jan 12 1989 21:00`	15
	re:.0 &.3 Mark, if you are TRULY interested, (and not just curious) you might want to contact the Associated Synagogues (Bet Din) on Tremont St. in Boston. Depending on why you are searching they can be very helpful in helping you locate your true identity. There is someone I knew that knew only that he was Jewish, but had not had any education, was about to marry a kohan's daughter, and needed to know. They took what he knew of his ancestry, traced it further than he knew existed, and then informed him that he was of the tribe of Levy. He went on to study, be Bar Mitzvah, and he, his wife anda children are very frum..almost Lubavitcher! Good Luck.
618.5	No lnger on Tremont Street - moved someplace	CADSYS::RICHARDSON		`Fri Jan 13 1989 12:30`	4
	re .-1 The Associated Synagogues moved from Tremont Street, but I am not sure where (Newton? Needham? Some such place - I haven't needed anything fromthem for several years). Anyone have the latest address?
618.6	Another lead?	BIGMAC::KUR		`Fri Jan 13 1989 12:45`	4
	Another lead might be the Mormons. They have reams of geneology info that goes way back, and covers all races, religions and countries.
618.7	Follow that lead....	CSSPRT::STARIN		`Fri Jan 13 1989 14:05`	11
	Re: .4 Thanks. I'll follow-up on the Associated Synagogues lead. Actually I've not really thought about what I would do if the results were positive. I've read so much in the Usenet about the correct definition of a Jew that I'm not sure how I would fit in. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it I guess. Thanks again for all the assistance. Mark