Conference tallis::celt

    Reports state that he was now involved in the hotel business...
    
    		Could you imagine being caught stealing towels from THAT
    hotel........
    

Re.-1   tee-hee.  Good one. :-)

    
    
    ...-1
    
    NOTHING is funny relating to ANYBODY been shot dead in front of a kid...
    
    rgs,
    
    Mick

Mick,
The joke is not that he has been shot.  You are absolutely correct - that 
is NEVER funny.  

Mark

    
    Will ::CELT be sending a contingent to pay respects at the funeral of
    this ex freedom fighter?
    

    >The world is a safer place this morning after the most notorious
    >of all republican terrorists Dominic "MAD DOG" McGlinchy(sp?) finally
    >fell at the hands of his own INLA. He was dragged from a phone box
    >by two armed men and shot dead.
    
    Funny, I would argue that the world is less safe. People increasingly
    use violence to solve their problems. This is why NI is so far apart
    from peace. You lost one terrorist but apparently gained two others.

                        
    3 terrorists - 1 terrorists = 2 terrorists
    
    How does this mean we have gained 2 , I thought it meant we have 1
    less. 
    
    Another reason why the rest of us were safer was because they were
    concentrating on their own for a change.

    The Gardai (Irish police) did there best to do in Mr McGlinchey back in
    the Eighties, after he escaped custody following one of his more
    infamous kidnapping escapades. McGlinchey and one of his henchmen were
    ambushed (roadblocked?) by the special branch. It seems they thought he
    was driving as the driver was hit by over twenty bullets and McGlinchey
    who was in the passenger seat walked away relatively unharmed.
    
    McGlinchey was an animal who lived and died by the gun. He won't be
    missed by many. In the same breath, though, I have to agree with George
    Darcy's comments in .6. Violence breeds violence and it's rise can be
    exponential if people don't have the courage to say enough is enough.
    
    Joe. 

    
    Dominic McGlinchey certainly was an active republican years ago but 
    the press hype on him is abit over the top....reference the last note
    for example which is completly untrue and references someone else
    entirely......
    
    All his alleged victims and their families deserve sympathy just as his
    own family does..his kid having seen both his parents shot dead in
    front of them. 
    
    
    

    Re .9
    Hmm.. I could have sworn it was McGlinchey that nearly got shot by the
    Gardai. Who was it so?
    
    Joe.

    I do not normally take part in this type of conversation. However I
    detest inaccurate reporting.
    
    Mr McGlinchey was killed outside a phone booth in Drogheda. He was not dragged
    anywhere. It has not been determined yet who killed him.
    
    He was not shot at any stage by the GARDAI/ARMY in  Ireland. The person
    you are probably thinking of is  Dessie O'Hare. 
    
    My sympathies go out to his 16 year old son - who has been a witness to
    both his father's and mother's brutal killing.
    
    I think we have seen enough people die tragically in this country.
    
    
    Martin Brennan

    
    I doubt many people think that the death of McGlinchey was a tragedy.
    
    However the death of all his victims could easily fall into that
    category.
    
    Gordon...
    
    

    
    Rright, a tragedy, that's rich. Those that live by the armalite shall
    die by it.
    

    It certainly is a tragedy - a wanton waste of human lives or resources.
    
    Whether you are sympathetic or indifferent to the tragedy seems to be
    at issue here.
    
    Pat

    
    I certainly don't wish to start a rathole, but every death by your
    reckoning is a tragedy, if that death was of a human who didn't live
    the kind of life he could have done. Only few people reach their
    maximum potential. 
    
    Normally when some violent and destructive person is killed, it isn't
    called a tragedy, except in the most abstract way.
    

    Apologies for my inaccuracy a few back. The man referred to in .8 was
    indeed Dessie O'Hare. It seems McGlinchey had returned to a life of crime 
    in the last few months and was implicated by the Gardai in two armed
    robberies in Millstreet Co. Cork recently.
    
    McGlinchey was interviewed by the (Irish)Sunday Press on a number of
    occasions recently and claimed a South Armagh family had hired a UVF
    gunman  to kill him in revenge for the death of one of their family
    members. The funeral in Co. Derry was attended by up to 700 people
    including Bernadette MacAliskey, who helped carry the coffin, and Sinn
    Fein's Martin McGuinness. I suppose they were there to pay respects to
    another "great republican".
    
    Joe.

    >>I certainly don't wish to start a rathole, but every death by your
    >>reckoning is a tragedy, if that death was of a human who didn't
    >>live...
    
    To end the rathole, let's agree to disagree.  I did state though that
    in my opinion, a tragedy is a wanton waste... which is considerably
    different from stating that every death is a tragedy.  My grandfather
    died in his sleep, of pneumonia.  His was not a tragic death but sad
    for surviving family members.  
    
    A wanton waste of human lives or resources does not necessarily mean
    that a death has occured.  A life spent in abject poverty, or threat of
    abuse, or an abusive relationship, is a tragedy.
    
    Now, back to the topic...
    
    Pat

    
    Indeed, agree to disagree. This is getting entirely too abstract.