| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 1300.1 |  | YUPPY::MILLARB |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 06:03 | 9 | 
|  |     Hey Mark
    
    Terrific note.  We should use the IRA's style of court.  This is called
    the Knee Capping Court and like the Diplock Court Requires no Jury. 
    Want to do a swap ?
    
    Regards
    
    Bruce
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| 1300.2 |  | KOALA::HOLOHAN |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 12:17 | 11 | 
|  | 
  Hey Bruce,
     How about trying justice instead?  Perhaps you
  should ask yourself if it's right for your Government
  to imprison innocent people as part of collective
  punishment for a community.  Maybe you should think
  about the morality of forced confessions, and 
  jury-less trials.
                 Mark
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| 1300.3 |  | NOVA::EASTLAND |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 12:33 | 7 | 
|  |     
    .. My, my, such righteous indignation  - this from someone who maintains
    the IRA are freedom fighters who don't intentionally blow up anyone. 
    Add this to your unanswered question pile. Why is Reynolds' party
    rumored to be considering selexctive internment if IRA continue their
    campaign. What a bore you are.
    
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| 1300.4 |  | KOALA::HOLOHAN |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 12:57 | 5 | 
|  | 
  re. .3
  An injustice is still an injustice whether it's
  commited by the British, or the Irish government.
                Mark
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| 1300.5 |  | KERNEL::BARTHUR |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 13:01 | 9 | 
|  |     
    It's even simpler than that. Democracy and justice can only exist with
    the goodwill of the people that live in it.
    NI is hardly the epitomy of a civilised society.
    
    The base note, like most of the others from the same source is a
    blinkered view of reality and not even worth commenting on.
    
    Bill    
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| 1300.6 |  | NOVA::EASTLAND |  | Mon Dec 20 1993 13:01 | 5 | 
|  | 
   Oh right, it's an injustice to lock up known IRA members unless 
   they're caught planting a bomb. It may be a curtailment of civil 
   liberties but it's hardly injustice.    
    
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| 1300.7 |  | SUBURB::FRENCHS | Semper in excernere | Tue Dec 21 1993 07:47 | 20 | 
|  |     After a peace agreement has been reached all terrorist prisoners should
    be looked at. If they actually are guilty of causing injory or death
    then they should stay inside for the duration of their sentence. If
    they are guilty of cause damage then the sentence should be reduced,
    maybe by 50%. If there is no or weak evidence to suggest an actual
    offence has been commited then they should be released after a suitible
    period of time after the case has been looked at, viz to give the
    police time to obtain _proper_ evidence. This time should not be too
    long. There should be a commision set up to investigate all cases and no
    cases should be delayed just to keep people in prison.
    
    
    This of course can only be achieved if all paramilitaries agree to end
    activities. If both republican and nationalist paramilitaries do indeed
    agree to a perm. cessation to hostilities and can show they mean it
    then the army should be withdrawn.
    
    
    Happy Christmas and peace to all.
    Simon
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| 1300.8 |  | HERING::DODONNELL | Going, going....... | Tue Dec 21 1993 08:38 | 15 | 
|  |     
    There is a process in place at the moment whereby prisoners can
    recieve 50% remission if they renounce violence and disassociate
    themselves from the paramilitaries. This process could be broadened
    in the event of a permanent cessation of violence. Austin Currie
    said last night that the British will agree to something but it 
    will not be called an amnesty. A "review of sentences" will probably
    be a more apt phrase.
    
    I was reading recently that one of the Shankill butchers had "found 
    God" and will be eligible for parole at Christmas. This will probably
    mean that he will get an early release. If one of these monsters can
    be released, anybody can be released.
    
    Denis.
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