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| 694.1 | Should be possible without too much trouble | FORTY2::DONOVAN |  | Wed Dec 13 1989 10:13 | 22 | 
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	Hello, the 'y' and 'w' circumflex characters don't appear in any of
	the standard DEC, IBM or ISO character sets. There may be some
	specific welsh language software which includes these characters but
	I don't know of anything.
	
	The standard way of producing characters which aren't part of the
	normal set is by using 'composite' characters which are really two
	characters printed on top of each other. The success of this depends
	a lot on the printer, since typefaces vary a lot and sometimes it
	just ends up looking a mess. 
	
	What you need is an editor that will let you produce these
	'overstrike' characters (and a printer that can print them); I expect
	you can find a way of doing that with most packages with a little
        trickery, like getting it to insert a 'backspace' character into the
        file. What package is your mother using ? Is it WordStar ?  
	
	(You can also do this with WPS-PLUS / ALL-IN-1, but I don't expect
	you mum will stump up for a VAX just to get this !)
	
	John
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| 694.2 | more details please | IOSG::HUGHES | Catrin Hughes | Wed Dec 13 1989 13:25 | 18 | 
|  | Hi John!
At the moment my mum has Wordstar Express (without the manual - not very useful)
and also Lotus symphony which has some word processing.
She is thinking about buying a new package probably Wordstar or Wordperfect,
but is a bit hesitant as she is unsure about how to go about 'adapting' it
to type the Welsh characters. 
If you could put some basic instructions here (neither of us have mush of a clue 
about computers!) I could pass them on to her and put her out of her misery!
The printer she has is pretty good so I don't think the printing the characters 
would be a problem.
Thanks in advance...
Catrin
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| 694.3 | How to do a Welsh accent ! | FORTY2::DONOVAN |  | Thu Dec 14 1989 10:54 | 29 | 
|  | 
	Hello Catrin; based on a very old Wordstar manual the key which
	allows you to overstrike characters is CONTROL+H (press the CONTROL
	key and H key together to get this).
	
	So, to get 'w circumflex' you would enter:
	
	w (CONTROL+H) ^
	
	As I said before this will look funny on the screen but should print
	OK. I don't know if in Welsh the capitals of these letters can also
	have the accents (W circumflex for example). The reason I mention
	them is because the ^ will probably blot out some of the W, since
	the W is taller than the w (I don't know how much sense this is
	making !).
	
	Anyway for capital letters you may get better results by
	'superscripting' the ^ character so that it doesn't print in the
	middle of the W (superscripting just means printing it a bit higher
	up the page). The superscript key is CONTROL+T and it switches
	superscripting on and off. To superscript the ^, you would enter:
	
	W (CONTROL+H)(CONTROL+T) ^ (CONTROL+T)
	
	The second CONTROL+T cancels the superscripting. Good luck with all
	this ! (I used to be in the IOSG group by the way but I'm now
	working in DEC Park II on the mail products)
	
	John	
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| 694.4 | a welsh locoscript | COMICS::HWILLIAMS |  | Fri Jan 05 1990 13:08 | 15 | 
|  | 
    Just out of interest, I've heard of the existence of a welsh version
    of "locoscript" (the WP package supplied for the Z80 base amstrad
    PCW 8256 & 8512)
    
    But I dunno anything about PCs
    
    Incidentally a circumflex can be used on any vowel in the welsh
    language, the effect is to elongate pronounciation of that vowel.
    The vowels in welsh are: 
                              A E I O U W Y 
    
    This probably doesn't help but it might interest someone.
    
    Huw Williams.
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