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| 502.1 |  | FUTURE::JST_ONGE | John St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715 | Mon Nov 09 1992 12:18 | 15 | 
|  |     I believe there's a new book  out  by  the  SCD  people on autographs
    which might contain some info on this.  Also Tuff Stuff has a section
    on autographs, but I don't think they'd list the '37 Bees.
    
    As far as note 501 goes,  you  may  have  better  luck taking it to a
    reputable card shop and I don't mean one of these fly-by-night shops.
    Maybe "Hall's Nostalgia" who deal  in  older  stuff. There's a pretty
    big show this weekend (GBSCC)  and you may also find some dealers who
    deal in old pennants etc.
    
    You also could pick up SCD, Tuff Stuff etc.  and  browse  through the
    ads to see if there are similar  things  for sale and maybe contact a
    dealer that way.
    
    John
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| 502.2 | Another possibility | CARTUN::PAVLOCK |  | Mon Nov 09 1992 22:04 | 10 | 
|  |     Reply .-2
    
    I don't know where you live, but Great American Baseball, in West
    Concord claims to do apprasails as well.
    
    He several many older peieces in his shop.
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    
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| 502.3 | West Coast | POLAR::FERGUSONR | PROFESSORI | Tue Nov 10 1992 12:14 | 5 | 
|  |     Peter is way the h*ll out in Washington state.
    
    Gidday Pete.
    
    R.M.F.
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| 502.4 | Out here, it's Rainier... | NWD002::TUTAK_PE | Hall of Foam 1992 Inductee | Tue Nov 10 1992 13:11 | 22 | 
|  |     
    Yeah, as Bob said (so succinctly), I'm way the hell out here in the
    trees. (Hey, Bob, how are ya ? Bud would want me to say 'hello', I'm
    sure.)
    
    I figured I could get a value opinion that would be pretty relevant
    from the Boston area, since there would be some folks who'd be familiar 
    with older Boston memorabilia. 
    
    I don't subscribe to Tuff Stuff, so I can't get an idea from that. (If
    I did, I'd probably have my house decorated in early Ebbets Field, and
    my personal life would be a financial and emotional wreck.) I don't know 
    of any 'appraisers' out here, per se. So, I guess I'm at an impasse.
    
    I'll probably wind up buying it within the next couple of days. In the
    meantime, I'm still willing to listen to anyone who thinks it's not
    worth it.
    
    Peter
    
    PS...and there was also this -beautiful- Phil Cavaretta model
    three-fingered glove on sale....
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| 502.5 |  | ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE | The best of best help the rest... | Tue Nov 10 1992 14:48 | 4 | 
|  | Offer them $50 and then ship it to me!  Sounds like a ball I wouldn't mind
getting for my collection.  What shop did you say it was in...
	Mb
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| 502.6 |  | NWD002::TUTAK_PE | Hall of Foam 1992 Inductee | Tue Nov 10 1992 23:47 | 16 | 
|  |     
    Sorry, Mark, I think I'm going to pick it up for myself.
    
    But let me ask you, if you're willing to pay $50 for it, is it worth
    the exra $15 just for posession ? The ball is in pretty good shape,
    considering it's almost 55 --make that 56-- years old. Guy Bush's
    signature is between the close seams, while the others are on other
    areas of the ball. In addition to the other signatures mentioned in .0,
    I believe Wally Berger's is on there, also. Gil english and Tony
    Cuccinello, too. (I've got a copy of the '37 roster in front of me and
    I'm going through it.) Lou Fette sounds familiar as well, but I don't
    remember McKechnie's name as being on it... 
    
    What do oyu think ?
    
    Peter it.. . 6
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| 502.7 |  | ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE | The best of best help the rest... | Wed Nov 11 1992 13:09 | 6 | 
|  | I just always look for the better deal.  There is usually always room for
negotiation and that's why I'd wave $50 in their face.  If you want to find
a reasonable estimate on that ball, pickup a SCD magazine and call a couple
of the auction houses and ask.
  If the ball is in good condition, I'd guess that it's a deal at that price.
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| 502.8 |  | NWD002::TUTAK_PE | Hall of Foam 1992 Inductee | Wed Nov 11 1992 13:51 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Thanks, Mark....I appreciate the input.
    
    Peter
    
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| 502.9 | Ka-ching ! | NWD002::TUTAK_PE | Hall of Foam 1992 Inductee | Wed Nov 11 1992 18:00 | 33 | 
|  |     
    OK, I bought it. Offered $55, and was politely told "The price is
    firm." The ball is a National League issue ball, with Frick's
    signature stamped in the lower half of the sweet spot. There is a small 
    dedication, reading:
    
    "From Tom Thevenow to Chas. Jarvis, Boston Bees, Aug. 18, 1937"
    
    The signatures are:
    
    Gil English    			"Bob" Smith
    Vince Dimaggio                      Wm. McKechnie
    Debs Garms                          Bill Wenz
    Al Lopez (signed twice by him)      Lou Fette
    Guy Bush                            Larry Gowdy
    Tommy Thevenow                      Jim Turner
    Ray Mueller                         "Chick" Cuccinello
    Frank Gabler                        Elbie Fletcher
    Ira (?) Hutchinson                  Gene Moore
    Ray (Roy ?) Johnson                 Tony ______________
    
    I thought Wally Berger was on it, but I was mistaken. I'd characterize
    the sigs as being from readable (Lopez, Lopez, Bush, Smith,
    Cuccinello, Fletcher, Moore) to faded/readable (Garms, DiMaggio,
    Mueller, Gabler, Hutchinson, Gowdy, Johnson, Wenz, Turner) to barely 
    readable (McKechnie, Fette, Thevenow, English, Tony _______).
    
    McKechnie's signature the one that I wanted to see on there. This guy
    was actually on the Newark Peps of the 1914 Federal League.     
    
    When I get home, I'll see if I can research who the Tony ___ person is.
    
    Peter  
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