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    San Jose, Ca. card show:
       '91 upperdeck: 4 boxes @ $27.50 per box
           (tough negotiation!)
        

    I opened my first wax box yesterday, got no Micheal Jordan card,
    and didn't even complete the Nolan Ryan 18 card set. Distribution
    wasn't that great, even the team holograms I got about 25 St Louis
    holograms. Hope my next box is better.
    
    Miguel

    I opened my 2nd and 3rd Boxes of upper deck and still got no
    Michael Jordan card and still don't have a complete set.
    
    Miguel

    
    Did Ryan sign any of the Hero series?
    
    Jim

	Picked up two boxes yesterday, $25ea... 

	Found two Michael Jordan Cards (one in each), it looks like there's
	one Jordan card in every other box. The dealer where I purchased these
	two boxes open a case and found 10 cards, he selling them for $8ea.

	The 3-D Holograms aren't to well distributed.. In 72 packs I found 8
	different, 4 in each box... So anyone wanting to trade these 3-D
	holograms with me, just send me mail.

	I was lucky enough to find all the Nolan Ryan cards to complete one
	10 card set, and only 4 to complete another.. 8^)

	I'm left with a 129 card wantlist, not bad distribution when you think
	about it, 1080 cards (72 packs), 700 card set, 81.6%

	Well, anyone wanting to trade, send me mail.. We can trade wantlist.

	Mike (2Jordans) 8^)

    I was lucky enough to get a Jordan card in my first box. I also have a
    large want list. I'll get the list made out and send a note in the
    trades note next week sometime. By the way what is the Jordan card
    going for now a days. Feel free to send me a wanted list and a list of
    cards you can part with for trades.
    					Dan McKenna
    

    
    The latest TUFF STUFF say's the Jordan card is going for 15.00.
    I got lucky last week ,I walked into Toys-R-Us and bought 1 pack.
    I opened it in the car and got a Jordan (my lucky day) all I
    need now is a lucky day for a Nolan Ryan or Reggie Jackson auto-!!

    
    	Went to a show last week and ran into a guy who had a bunch
    of Jordans. I traded 2 Ryno autos I got in PNO at spring training
    ($4 ea) for 3 Jordans. It was also my son's birthday so I bought
    him a box of '91ud. He opened it that night and yep, 3 Jordans.
    
    
    Jim
    

	NEW!

	Jumbo Packs... UD has come out with a Jumbo pack which contains 
	27 cards, 2 holograms and one randomly inserted card of 12 different
	cards for the set.

	The pack has $1.98 marked right on it... But, in Marlboro there selling
	for $3.

    
    Rumor:
    U.D. had some problems early in their packing process. Seems the
    colation was bad (too many jordan and ryan hero cards]. This came
    from some one who says he got 5 jordan in a box shipped in jan.
    This might have some merit, my box had 3 and I am 3 cards short
    of 5 sets of ryans, all from one box. I tend to think this could
    have happened because the box i opened yesterday had only 5 ryans
    hero cards total.
    
    p.s. I did get 1 jordan in the second box
    
    jim
    

    Does anyone know where or how I can get the Reggie 10 card set,and how
    much is it going for?
    				Dan
    z

	Check out Frank Thomas on this years Upper Deck card......

	I'm not sure what number he is.

	Ken Griffey Sr.		His picture on the back has him with a 
				clown nose on. I've seen the card, this
				isn't a rumor... I've seen both varities.
				Mostly without.

	Mike

    
    What prices are you guys seeing on the jumbo/silver slugger cards?
    
    	Some knucklehead followed the UPS truck around town and went
    back and bought up all the jumbo boxes. Now our prices are very
    inflated ($5/pak and $5-$10 for the slugger cards).
    
    
    Jim @ABO
    

	RE. -1

	Your right John, the distribution was excellent.. 97% I only need 3
	cards to complete my set. I'll be putting together a second set soon.
	I think I'll have most of the cards for the second set too. I picked
	up my box for 35$.

	Also, I found two SP2 cards of Henderson/Ryan in the box. Along with
	some pretty good cards from the low numbers (Thomas,Erickson,Griffey).

	The Aaron subset was as easy to put together as the Ryan subset in
	the low number boxes. In my low number box I almost completed two
	sets of the Ryan hero cards. The Aaron Subset I still need 5 cards
	to complete one set and 8 to complete the second.. I only found 8
	cards in my box.

	Mike

    I'm really pissed off,I just bought 5 packs of the Upperdeck Jumbo
    pack that have the "Silver Slugger" card in each pack. The price for
    these cards are marked at $1.98 but the going price on the outside
    (if you can find them) is anywhere from $3.50 to $5.00 per pack.
    Out of the 5 packs that I opened (Very Carefuly) only 2 packs were 
    good,and the other 3 packs should of been thrown in a barrell at
    the factory where they were (produced) made.On all the cards there 
    is a line that is in the same location on every card,it looks like 
    some sort of a rubber wheel or something that was holding the cards
    down or something.Also the corners are damaged,and 2 cards were stepped
    on and put back inside the pack. What I need from someone is an 
    address where I can send them,and show them (Upperdeck) what kind 
    of garbage got through their Q.C. Department.
    
    
    Thanks
          John M.
                226-2256

    
    	Here is the address I have for Upper Deck:
    
    		UPPER DECK CO.
    		23705 Via del Rio
    		Yorba Linda, CA 92686
    
    	Comment:
    
    		I copied this address from some place, I don't remember
    	where, but Spanish is my native language, and I would bet that
    	where it says Yorba Linda, it should read Yerba Linda, which means
    	Pretty grass in Spanish.
    

    While I don't speak Spanish (well), I am a native Californian. I'm
    pretty sure that it is Yorba Linda. In either case though, as long as
    the zip code is accurate, it'll get there.
    
    Call the Post Office and ask for the zip to Yorba Linda, and see what
    they say.
    
    John D.

    
    They'll say ...
    
    
    
    
    No habla espanol senor ...  8^)
    
    (Did I spell those right Juan ... ?)

    
    
    	
    		That's close enough for you guys, for others who are more
    	precise, you would have to use a 2 stroke key combination involving
    	the "Compose character" key to make it right, like this: " � " to 
    	be used in words like
    
    				Espa�ol, and se�or, and ma�ana
                                                                      
    

    I called Upperdeck yesterday,(Customer Service) and told them about
    the damaged cards that I got inside a Jumbo pack. The person that I
    talked to was very coopertive and explained to me how to send them, 
    and who to send them to (Quality Assurance). Upon request, Upperdeck
    will replace card for card which I think is great,so if you have any
    cards that you think are bad send them back,they like hearing from
    us (consumer)............ 
    
    Juan it is, Yorba Linda  ;-) 
     

    
    
    		Thanks for the confirmation on Yorba Linda.  I could have
    	bet you (I'm not a betting person, normally) some money that it
    	should be Yerba Linda.  Everything else in the address is in 
    	Spanish, and it can be translated, for example:
    
    		Via del Rio means River Way
		Yerba Linda would mean Pretty Grass, 
    
    	but there is no translation for Yorba, that is why it makes sense to me
    	the original intention was to name it Yerba Linda, and somehow, during
        this process, it was mis-spelled, and it stayed that way. Anyhow,
    	even if it was true, this is all water over the bridge, and it
	won't make any difference what I think it should be.
                                                            

    
    Not unusual for us anglos to mangle someone else's language Juan.
    
    Especially when it suits our purposes.
    
    Someone probably thought Yorba Linda was easier to say/pronounce/
    anglicize/remember/whatever, than Yerba Linda.
    
    								-rjk

    Yeah. And besides, it's California, dude. We kind'a blended spanish
    with english to suit our whims a long time ago.
    
    8^)
    
    John D.

    
      Opened 2 boxes of High yesterday.  Distribution wasn't too bad.  Got
    no signed Aarons, but, got card # HH1 which is a Hank Aaron holigraph.
    
      I can't find any listing on this card.  Can anyone fill me in on this
    card?  Have I found the holy grail?
    
    
    					Mike

    Those are selling for $50 ea at some shops
    
    
    
    Jim

    
    John,
    
    You might not want to send the ud card. From what I understand,
    if you write to them they will send you an auto. card of some kind,
    Even if you don't send along a card to sign. If you do send a card
    you probably won't get the same one back.
    I got the above from some kids at spring trng. this yr.
    In fact Dunston wouldn't sign a thing for the general public, but
    when I asked " what was he doing in the office ( it looked like
    he was signing stuff) " ,I was told he was signing "rifleman" cards
    for mail requests. I guess they all do that, Well you'll find out
    soon enough, maybe you should ask for Ryno's too.
    
    Jim
    

	I picked up from my local dealer the Hank Aaron Hologram card (HH1)
	for 5$.

	Very easy to find, just expensive to buy. I think dealer think just
	because it's from Upper Deck and it's a hologram it's got to be
	worth 30$.

	Mike

	Ya, I know John,  I already spent 11$ for a SP2 card. But, for those
	of you who don't have one, don't spend the 15$ the dealers at the
	shows are asking. Wait till this seasons over, I'ld bet the two cards
	will be down around the 5$ mark. (SP2 and HH1)

    
    High series jumbos are at 7/11 for $1.98

    
    what are you guys seeing on the Hank holos, ther are still up around
    $50 here in the s.w.
    
    jim

    
    Well, The Saint is too modest to admit it (he is a Saint after
    all), but he recently found one of these autographed cards himself.
    
    He opened a high-number 1990(??) "wax" pack, and inside was card
    #0401 ...
    
    The really amazing thing is that I had these packs in my possession
    for John for a couple of weeks before he picked them up.  I know,
    I know, what's so amazing about that.  
    
    Most of you know I hate UD, and if they'd stayed away from FB and BK,
    I still wouldn't have bought any.  But I looked at the "Find The
    Reggie" logo, and I was bitten by the bug.  I kept telling John;
    "I know there's a Reggie in there.  I know it, I just know it!".
    
    John told me to go ahead an open 'em if I was that sure, and if
    it was we could sell it and split the money.  But my conscience
    kept me from opening those packs.
    
    Wasn't I disappointed when John opened the packs last night at my
    apartment.  And of course, he thinks I'm psychic, but I'm just
    plain sick over this.  To think I could've opened the packs ...
    
    Congratulations John!
    
    Now, where do I get some of those packs ...
    
    -rjk

    John,

    how came you didn't tell me? After all, you get those packs from me!

    What's it worth?

    Mike

    
    
    Hmmmm.  Let me think.  Reggie.  0401.   Hmm.  Reggie.  04 01.
    
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ......................
    
    
    I know!  I know!
    
    
    
    
    04/01 -- April Fool's Day?
    
    
    
    
    Gotcha Mike!  8^)
    
    						-rjk

	Your in big trouble Roy!  8^)

	I don't believe you two could have done this to me. I lost two night's
	sleep dreaming about this.

	Roy, I was just over there talking with you during lunch, and you didn't
	ever crack a smile.

	You know, here I am writing this reply and still I don't know what to 
	believe. 

	Mike

    Brrr... it's chilly in here...

    Anyone know what a good price for an Aaron hologram is?  Should I bite
    for $15?
    

    
    
    		I bought a Hank Aaron Hologram at the card show I went to
    	this past weekend for $10.  There were other dealers selling it
    	for anywhere from $15 to $25.  If you shop around, you can find it
    	for $10.  In case anyone is wondering where the show was, it was
    	at the Park Plaza Hotel in Marlboro, and they have a show there
    	the first week of every month.

    Anyone else here this?
    
    Went to a dealer last night.  I asked about UD hoop and she said it's
    coming after hockey.  But she also got a form saying UD is also putting 
    out a box set of "hi number" cards.  700-800?  No, 800-900!!!  Had to
    buy 2 cases, some huge amount of boxes per case. (200?)
    
    You can bet not cheap either.  Oh boy....
    

    
    
    This is for baseball, right Walt?  Please say it's not for football
    or basketball, and then I can just ignore it like I do UD's other
    games with baseball collectors?

    This is for baseball.  She wasn't sure about 1) a UD FB factory set
    or 2) an update, hi-series for FB.  She didn't know about the BK
    ones...
    

    
    RE: .52
    
    	There will be an update set for UD FB.  There will be a factory
    set for UD FB.
    
    -rjk

    
    
    Will these be called the super high series? Will they feature a find
    the "who haven't we thought of yet" set? This will make for one
    heck of alot of low series around this year. Just to collect a box
    of low, heros, hi, and now super high will cost $120! I sure am
    getting tired of all the different marketing trips these manufacturers
    are coming up with. It's getting hard to keep your sense of humor
    about this stuff. 
    The 1st hi series will drop in value because they will have to print
    more ( I'm sure these boxes will contain 1-900). The demand for
    these newest ones will probably be hi ... uh super hi :-)
    
    Jim
                                                

      What is this 801-900 UD Baseball series that are being sold all about?
    Who and what is in these sets?  Anyone seen one yet?
    
    
    					Mike B
    

    
    Is this a rumor? I've heard the sets are already being sent out,
    1-800.
    
    

    So .50 is true?  Oh boy!!!

    
    Local dealer I spoke with said he ordered some of these from UD
    the other day, looks like it's for real.
    
    jeff
    

    I've seem photographers before the games taking pictures of the ball
    girls, trainers and vendors!
    
    
                                    -pj-

    
    Yes, I must admit it.  This UD UHi number set, is indeed a set of
    the hobby's most influential figures.
    
    I'm going to spill the beans to you, that Mr. Mint and I, are two
    of the figures pictured.
    
    Big Bob is another.
    
    The Saint I believe is getting his own card, but he won't confirm
    it.  I think he's trying to pre-order as many as he can to drive
    the price up.
    
    My card is #UHI 863.
    
    							-rjk

      I had got one too.I heard that it was going for 50$.But it has gone
    down to 15$.But don't sell it is going back up.                            
    
                                        Jimbo					
    
    
    
    
    
    
    ex
    

    
    
    re: .50
    
    It's true...Upper Deck is going to come out with a "Final Update/Traded
    set" for the '91 set (#801-900).  I saw it advertised in a "Previews"
    magazine and should be available around December.  I have no idea what
    the price is going to be, but guess around $20-$30(conservatively).
    
    I'm going to wait until I see them at a card show, 'cuz I've seen some
    pretty low prices for stuff I want.  Example:  Upper Deck '91 Silver
    Slugger Set for $30...UD'91 set (1-800) for $38.50 and more....
    
    If anyone is interested,  the "Previews" magazine is a pre-order
    catalog/magazine with merchandise for sale three months, THREE,
    in advance.  The "Sports Previews" magazine is dedicated to all sports
    merchandise, while the "Previews" magazine is a cross-merchandise
    magazine of comics,SF,fantasy,sports and books.
    
    I get mine at my comic specialty store and can plan in advance what I
    want to buy.  Unless it's noted otherwise, I can be assured of recieving
    my order as soon as the product becomes available...
    
    Jeff
     

    
    The SRP (suggested retail price) UD quoted it's dealers for this
    set was $10.99
    
    They're in plentitude around here (Mass. card shows), for $14.
    
    -rjk

     Is their a Silver Slugger checklist if so, how many cards
    in a set. Also the Hank Aaron cards series. What have the
    prices of the Silver Slugger cards been going for?
     
                       Ted

    re: .65
    
    The Beckett BB w/ Frank Thomas on the cover, Oct?, has a price list
    for the Silver Slugger set.  The Canseco, Benito Santiago go for 
    about $5, while the Lance Parrish and Ellis Burks cards are around
    $2-3.  The complete set of 18 cards I've seen at shops are priced at
    $50-60 because of the distribution of the Jumbo packs (where the Silver
    Slugger cards were/are in) was poor.  I bought a set at a card show
    for $25 which were priced to sell (some scratches, but then again, I'm
    keeping them, not selling), so keep looking, they're out there.
    The suggested retail price printed on the foil packs is $1.98, but as 
    with any scarce item, the price increases.  In this case the Jumbo 
    packs were going for $5/pack.  At $5/pack, I thought "What the heck..
    I'll wait for someone to sell the set.  It's cheaper that way"
    
    Jeff
    
    

    
    Do you think U.D. will continue this set in the future? I do. The Reggie
    heros have become very much in demand simply because collectors would
    now like to have the complete set of heros from '90 on. The silver
    slugger sets will probably follow that same trend. Also these $5/pack
    prices seem to be driving the set up. I would buy them at $25 or $30
    because next year they will be $50 and $60. Of course I Trade for 90%
    of what I pick up at shows.
    
    Cheap Jim 

    
    The Final Edition set's SRP is $10.95, and you can find it with
    most dealers from $12-14.
    
    Some dealer are pricing it from $16.50 to $20 -- wait, and shop
    around.  You can find it cheaper.
    
    -rjk

    Heroe's of baseball -

    I know there's an intro card for the Nolan Ryan subset, but is
    there a intro card for Hank Aaron too?

    The reason I ask is because I see it in the 'Wanted' note.

    I'ld say Noooo...
    
    Mike

	re: -1

	What does this intro card have on it..? All the ads I've seen
	in trade rags have been for the 10 card ryan set and the 9 card
	aaron set. I can't figure out how they can print an intro card
	for aaron.. I thought the intro card was for the entire heroe's
	set for that year.

	Mike

	This is just F.Y.I.

	In this weeks Baseball Card News they list the 1991 UD Final
	Edition at $50 - $35/set... 

	What does this mean? When we go to the show this weekend, should
	we all buy a couple extra? If the next Beckett's come out and the
	price is up there, where going to shoot ourselves...

	#%$& confused &$%#
	Mike

    
    It means someone in the proof-reading department is an idjit.   Or
    someone in the data gathering department is an idjit.  Or it means
    we're all idjits.
    
    They were out there last weekend for $12-13/set, and NOT NOT NOT
    NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT selling.
    
    I will not be surprised, nor will I let it anger me when it happens,
    to see someone using this price guide to hype up the price of their
    sets.
    
    Wait!  I've got it!  QVC/HSC is going to be offering them soon, and
    they needed some "factual" material to base their outrageous price
    on.  That's the ticket!
    
    -rjk

   Well Roy, You'll be glad to hear that I went to a show tonight and
   picked up a set of the final edition for $10.  

    8^)
    Mike

	Has anyone evey seen the HOF cards UD put out this year? I think
	there numbered H1 thur H4, and the value is somewhere around 15$

	

    I got H4 earlier in the year.  It had all three of the guys on the
    card, I think they were Killerbrew (sp), Jenkins, and Perry?..  I
    unloaded it for $18.  I didn't think they were rare because a friend
    also got one in a box.  I have not seen them around in the shops
    lately.
    
    Jon