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| 115.1 | It's your decision! | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Ahhh, too much fruit... | Tue Feb 27 1990 16:43 | 14 |
| David...
If you are looking to open the boxes and put them into pages then
I might suggest a hand collated set. Two reasons, first they
are numerically sorted by hand and *should* all be there and second,
the price of the set will usually be less than a factory-sealed
set.
If you are planning to re-sell the set down the road then I would
suggest a factory-sealed set. They seem to hold thier value longer.
But leave it sealed, that way if you do sell it and the cards are
not there then it's not your problem.
Glenn
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| 115.3 | I prefer Hand Collated Sets. | AKOV12::GASPARONI | | Fri Mar 02 1990 08:50 | 26 |
| This is another good reason why card shops will be around for a while
longer. Most shop dealers will tell you that if anything is missing,
bring it back and they will correct the problem for you. Fred Harris
at the Concord Card Shop will tell you that the little extra you pay
through dealing with a reputable card shop, is garanteeing the cards
will all be there, or he will take care of it, and not give you a run
around. He can return any defective merchandise to the factory for
returns. Also, I'm not completely sold on factory sets. Case in
point, a year ago, I bought a factory set from ZAYRE's, factory sealed
and all that great stuff. Well, I was new to the hobby, and decided
to open the box to see what I had bought for $22.95 plus tax. In my
situation, all my cards were curled. Thats right folks, curled in the
fancy factory sealed box. No damage to any of the cards, but the way
I figured it, in 10 years, when my son decides to go to college, and
wants to cash in all these card board heros, there is going to be a
crease right in the middle of all 795 cards, especially if they were
stored in a damp location in the house, the top layer of the card would
of seperated from the back half. I personnally have changed my buying
habits to hand collated sets, so I can see what I've bought, and to
ensure that these sets are not curling the boxes. I also randomly pull
cards to ensure that there all in there, and check for the high priced
cards. The h_ll with this shrink wrap crap, I'm interested in whats in
the box, not what the box looks like. I know if I'm buying a set, I
want to make sure there are cards in there, and not someones old SCD
pages, all crinkled up! There are some sleazy dealers out there, so
watch out !!
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| 115.4 | why factory sets | TOOTER::COOPERMAN | | Fri Mar 02 1990 09:11 | 5 |
| I think the point of factory sets is to buy and sell sets that never
get opened, but are always presumed to be complete and untouched. If
you want a set to be able to look through, this isn't the way to go.
michael
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| 115.6 | The Jim and Jerome story smells bad | ASDS::KELLY | | Fri Mar 02 1990 12:51 | 15 |
| Havn't written in over a year, have to get in on this one. I'm a
dealer. My thoughts are:
-Shrink wrap guarantees nothing - shrink wrap machines are
plentiful, anyone can raid and rewrap. Donruss is now
using it's own paper with a logo, Fleer uses it's own
tape. It's a start at eliminating sleeze.
-From my standpoint factory set is a myth. It's
assembled at the factory and subject to all of the
errors that any other set can have; except wax stains.
-the chances that the 2 most valuable cards in that UD set
were missing and then replaced by the shop owner are
free of charge are next to nil. Something smells.
-The buyer that trusts that all of the cards are in the box
and mint will soon be parted from their money ( a fool and.....
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| 115.7 | | HPSTEK::SCHWARTZ | | Mon Mar 05 1990 08:38 | 3 |
| Rep. -1
If you are a dealer.. Where is your shop? If you are a show dealer
what area and what shows?
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| 115.8 | EVERYTHING 0-TAY! | CSC32::D_HAPMAN | | Mon Mar 05 1990 12:44 | 10 |
| just to keep everyone informed, i exchanged my Upper Deck extended set
at the shop of purchase with no problems. he called Upper Deck and got
the same info i received, that those two cards are missing in alot of
sets and Upper Deck will replace them to the dealer.
thanks to all for all replies!
regards,
david hapman
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| 115.9 | Ain't all Sleeze + 115.7 | ASDS::KELLY | | Fri Mar 09 1990 15:57 | 22 |
| Re. .7
I don't have a shop. I wholesale individual players and sets
to many of the New England Card Shops. Sets in this context means
complete sets, team sets and selected mini sets ( Ryan Salutes-First
draft picks etc). Because I wholesale to Card Shops, and most
card shop owners do shows; I stay away from shows. If I sell
store owner A 100 Red Sox Sets for 1.00/ea then set up next to
him and sell at a dollar a set I wouldn't get much more business
from Owner A. I also have a large mail order business from
adds in tough stuff and SCD.
RJK is correct about the GBSCC show in Nov. It's dynamite. As
an aside to those of you that continually curse the darkness the
GBSCC (700 Store Owners and Hobbyists) donates a very large
percentage of it's gross from the show to the Shriners, Jimmy Fund
and the Globe Santa. In addition this volunteer organization is always
raising money for special causes ( Bob Stanley's child for instance)
and is to a large extent self-policing. My guess is that this group
and its members donate 50,000+ per year to charities. It ain't all
sleeze, tampered wax, searched rack, glue guns and bogus shrink
wrap.
Sorry for the sermon.
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| 115.11 | I overheard this | MOSAIC::COOPERMAN | | Mon Mar 12 1990 10:27 | 8 |
| Speaking of sleazy dealers, I went to the Rootin Tootin Newton show
yesterday and was walking around, trying to buy a 50 cent card for a
quarter when I heard someone approach a kid who was behind me. The guy
said something like this - "Did you just buy a Canseco card from me?"
When the kid said yes, the guy told him that he left the card on his
table. I was impressed.
Michael
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| 115.12 | More common than you think | FRAGLE::GUTIERREZ | | Tue Mar 05 1991 09:43 | 8 |
|
I bought a 90 Traded set from a dealer, it was shrink sealed in
clear plastic, opened the set and put the cards in numerical order,
only to find that there were 2 duplicate cards, and 2 card numbers
missing from the set. I don't think it was the dealer who did this
because the missing cards were not star players. Wrote to the
company to get the missing cards, but haven't heard from them yet.
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| 115.14 | | REFINE::ASHE | Step left, around & together with the right | Tue Mar 05 1991 12:17 | 10 |
| Ok...
A set's value goes down if you open it right? So how do you determine
if a set's complete unless you do? And then if you do, it's not
considered mint by most people. So how do you avoid the problem?
My Pro Set Update turned out fine. I bought 3, opened 1... to put
in the box with the rest of my set.
-Walt
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