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    Is there anyone out there interested in buying 1990 Upper Deck
    Baseball sets ? Now would probably be the best time to buy,and
    order a case. I know that I can get a few interested,and serious
    buyers................ John
                                                       
    Thanks to Fran Richards we bought the 1989 set (1 thru 800)
    for $42.00 a set,the wait was worth it.
                                                 John Mondalto
                                                Boards::Mondalto  
                                                  DTN 256-2256
                                           
    
    

    There is an error on Ben MacDonalds card, the All Star Emblem has
    not put on the car, instead the Orioles emblem was. The card is
    selling for up to $225.
    
    Last week I heard of first run packs selling for $5 - 10 each.
    
    It may soun high, but I saw people buying them up like crazy! 

    Hi John.  Yes I would be interested in buying factory sets. Please call
    me at 276-8156.
    Regards
    Mike

    re .4
    	In the latest issue of Price Guide Monthly, they have an article
    in there that says that the Ben McDonald error card is selling for
    $150.00 and in the price listings it says its value is $100.00.
    Which is the correct price of this error card?
     
                      Ben

    re, .4
    	Thanks rjk, I am new to this hobby and do not know much about
    it, and none of my friends are intrested in collecting.
    			
    			Ben
    

    I read in a small BB card news letter, that is published, that UD
    prices are tumbling down to earth, and fast.  The Extended set is down
    to $30, and dropping, and sets have been seen to be in the $70 range,
    and dropping.  Also, the dealers are starting to put the once "SCARCE"
    and "RARE" upper deck sets, and extended set out, with few takers, and
    the prices are fallllllling to earth.  No longer are the cards SCARCE,
    or RARE, but plenty full.  And the great UD company refuses to devulge
    how many sets, and extended sets they made during the 1989 campaign.  
    The article continues to say that chances are, they made many more sets
    than they want the public to believe, and especially what the dealers
    wanted you to believe.  I guess, the dealers who sold out of 1989 UD
    sets are happy.  Dealers who sandbagged, hoping to make a REAL killing,
    they can now rot with them.  As Clint Eastwood once said in his famous
    "The Outlaw Joesy Wales" movie, Buzzards have to eat just like worms,
    dealers who sandbagged all those hard to find sets, are now going to be
    eaten alive!

    I disagree.......
    
    UD sets/subsets are falling in price, but this only tells me to 
    BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is the first UD set and the cards are quality
    no matter what happens to the market.  To be perfectly honest, the
    reason why they were so high is because of the limited distribution
    placed by UD, itself.  These sets will rebound!  This is not a gutsy
    prediction, but a fact, and I will stand by it.
    
    If anyone wants to BAIL OUT, I will purchase all 1-800 sets at $35.
    Sounds like a joke, but if you are worried.......
    
    GG

    John, I can't beleive it, you agreed with me! (Ha, Ha,) To give you an 
    example of how the UD is coming down, a recent Natick show had the
    full 1-800 for $70.  At X-mass time, I saw a set at the Shop in Concord
    selling for $125.99.  Thats coming down.  A recent show  in Marlboro
    had the extended set for $32.  I saw that selling for $65 at the
    Brandeis Univ. show in the fall.  They may never hit $50, but it will
    be a while before you see them for $100.  I have learned one thing over
    the past year on card collecting, new cards only, if you want to be the 
    first person on the block with a set, or a box of error cards, you will
    pay a premium price, probably because the supply has not been totally
    met.  But if you wait a few months, the prices do level off, and you
    get a much better price, more realistic.  Look at the 1989 Topps sets,
    you can pick them up for $16.99 at Osco Drug.  In the fall, they were
    selling them for $21.  The supply catches up to the Demand in this 
    business eventually, the price always follows.  John, your comment
    on the UD not getting disbursed to retail outlets is "right on".
    Dealers created their own scarcity, and demand was high, because of 
    hoarding by everyone able to buy in bulk.  I think there is still
    room for a drop before UD is back on track.  No question, its the 
    quality set!

    
    Last year Woolworths (in N.Y.) had UD foil packs. They sold initially 
    for $1.00, then $1.10. Now they have hundreds of 1989 UD 1-800 sets.
    They showed up in locked display cases in late January. They are priced
    at $98.99 and they are not moving. This particular Woolworths may have
    picked these sets up separate from national purchasing agreements and
    therefore may need to get that price but there is literally no
    interest.  They will be discounted along with the 19.00 1989 Fleer
    sets. 
    
    I haven't seen Fleer cards at Woolworths this year. I think Woolworths
    is still mad about the Billy Ripkin recall that they complied with.
    "Send us back the cases or we will not send you any cards next year."
    No other outlet complied and still gets cards. 
    
    NT
                                   

    If there is such a "price gouge", then when you order
    from UpperDeck why is *EVERY* order cut in half?
    Don't you think that UD would want to sell as much as 
    the people order?
    
    Thoughts?
    GG

    I think UD likes to give everyone the impression that there stock is
    very limited, and in demand.  They move it all around the country,
    because they have not yet found a regular retailer to market the cards,
    due to their first year of operation.  But big dealers, HOme shopping
    Network got millions, why?  Because thousands of people watch TV and
    its free advertising, good promotion, especially when a ball player
    comes on the show a pushes his autogragh stuff.  Then they throw the UD
    cards in between, and you get a ballplayer who knows didely about cards
    telling everyone what a great card it is, and how the prices are
    shooting up and its a great investment.  So the general public, who
    needs a fix to buy something around Christmas time says, " Does little
    Johnny want some baseball cards"?  Yes mamma, buy me some NOW.  CVN and 
    the other Cable shopping network got millions.  Dealers and shmucks
    like us got none, or very few.  Check out a show this weekend, I saw UD
    at the Andover show, the extended set, for $22.  Thats below the dealer
    cost, and there taking a beating folks.  Sure, it will go back up, but
    things are tight out there, and there not moving UD 1989 sets.  YA,YA!!

    What makes you think Dealers paid in excess of $22 for the update set?
    I have it on good authority that they paid aprox. $6 each and are
    laughing all the way to the Bank at all the smuks that are paying their
    outrageous asking prices. $22 is still way to hi.
    
    Dick
    

    I guess I heard it at the Concord Card Shop.  Fred said $22 is below
    cost.  How many STARS in that little EX. set anyway?  I saw a UD set at 
    the Newton show yesterday for $77, (1-800) and they weren't moving.  I
    agree, that set is way to HIGH!!  I remember when it was going for $60.
    And dealers were saying it would hit $100.  But when??  UD is DEAD
    right now, and all baseball cards are dying a sloooooow death,
    especially if baseball doesn't get untracked.  All those rookie cards,
    won't be worth the cardboard there printed on.  Who are these guys??
    They never played in the "SHOW".  $6 bucks for the EXT. set seems a
    little low to me.  The box must cost that, never mind the 100 cards in 
    the box.  

    I just picked up a pack of Upperdeck foils 1990 and I think I found a 
    good one. #145 Odibbie McDowell,shouldn't it be Oddibe.
    
                               John
    
    

    I just started collecting cards and I was wondering if Upper Deck
    is worth collecting? What are it's advantages and disadvantages?
    I would appreciate all information you can give me.
    
    
                                         WILL THE THRILL
    		

    I like the card very much,and I know that the price per pack is very
    high,but then again your getting what you pay for,a good quality,and
    superior card.If you subscribe to Becketts look at the Griffey rookie
    card,then check out the prices on the other big companies. I don't
    think Upper Deck floods the market like Topps and Donruss.
    
    
                             John
    

    Will,
    
    Save your money and spend it on older cards in nice condition.  They're
    more challenging to find, nicer to look at, and generaly worth more. If
    it's the thrill of opening wax packs you want, go to Costco and you can
    pick up boxes of Topps, Donruss, and Fleer for $11.99. Cheap fun.
    
    If it's investing you're after, pick up late '70's early '80's cards of
    potential H.O.F.'ers and wait. Oh yeah, if you do this, be a MINT
    FREAK! there's plenty of these cards around, so to make money you want
    *perfect* one's.
    
    Personally, I collect Giants team sets. I don't invest (much), and the
    Giants cards mean alot to me.
    
    The above is obviously MY opinion, and shouldn't be taken as the
    *right* way to do anything. I'll go beyond Roy and say that I'm an
    anti-anything_new collector. I think it's all garbage! 8^)
    
    John D.

    RE: .27
    
    Gee, John, a guys' gotta do something cheap for fun! All those old
    cards get expensive, and besides, those Post cards are hard to find.8^)
    
    Since you mentioned it, did you check with your friend about #'s 9 and
    12? 
    
    John D.

    upper deck cards at BJ WHOLESALE FOR 22$ a box, 36 foil wrap's in 
    a box awsome deal.
    
    DAVE "THE FINK" MITCHELL

    Yeah, but too late for all the kids who bought packs at local variety
    stores for $1.49 or more each.  Then again, do kids buy these things?

    I went to BJs in Salem NH on Tuesday (6/26), and was dispapointed
    to find that they had discontinued Upper Deck cardss at that
    location!
    
    My question to Dave is (1) WHEN, (2) WHERE was this bargain noticed?
    
    -dick-

    Dick
    
    Friday June 22 I went to the one in Weymuoth Ma.
    If you want some I will go see if the have some left
    and buy some. For further info my dtn:294-5748
    AFTER 3PM....................................
    
    DAVE

    RE: .36
    
    Did you say A's fan? You're lucky you are 3,000 miles away, bub.
    I'd roll you out like wholesale carpet! 8^)
    
    John D.
    
    

    
    WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE THE '90 UPPER DECK SETS AND AT WHAT
    PRICE?
    
    				JIM ABO

      Late this month at about $69 for 1-800.
    
    

  Well folks the high # cards are out!  At a show in Nashua they were selling 
anywhere from $45 to $65 a box.  The new gimic is collect all 9 of the Reggie
Jackson special card set, and maybe you might be one of the lucky 2500 people
to get a hand autographed Reggie card...

    And I saw the damned things selling for $2.50 per pack in Portsmouth,
    NH on Saturday.

re -.1

  And I bought the damned things for $35 a box Sunday at a show in Merrimack...

Mb

    Really, stop and think about Hi's this year from UD.
    
    Who is going to be the card in there, excluding the Jackson
    thing?  It will be the Delino Deshields.  So, it's only one
    card out of 100.  I really don't think these paks should/will
    sell for over $1, but you guys know the *lovely* market that
    we deal in!  I can by boxes of low '90 UD here in Colorado
    all day long for ~$24.  That's .67 apiece!
    
    Please guys, be careful on this one!
    
    I know John St_Onge, can't believe that I'm telling everyone
    to not pay those dealers prices and to disregard that hype!!  :*)
    
    Thoughts?
    GG

    Is there a Dave Justice card? I think so. This may be the best if he
    keeps up. His Donruss card is going for $2.50-3.00 and the Score
    version is around $3.00. Of course I'm speaking of the Atlanta shops.

    K-Mart seems to have no shortage of UDs at $.99 per pack
    
    REJ

    
     Just bought the 1990 Upper Deck set for $76. Anyone seen it cheaper?

    Saw the 90 UD 1-800 at a show in Methuen (Gaythorne K of C) for...
    ...$59.95!!! this past Sunday!!!

    
     Has anyone seen the correct version of the Nolan Ryan salute in
    the Hi No's.? I am looking for this one but have not been able to find
    it yet. It is susposed to have a corner stripe that mentions his 300th
    win. It would be nice to find some place to go this weekend near the
    Canobie lake area so I could have some fun also whilst kids are
    frollicking in the park. (leave them w/ the wife and go).

    I thought the Ryan hi number commerated his 6th no-hitter?  Was it the
    300 win?
    
    joe

Re.57

Well if you're selling for Only $29.95, I'll take 2!
	

    
    Sounds like this variation has the potential of another Dale Murphy
    error card. See Upper Deck 1989 card no.357A.

    
    ud says the banner card will out number the no banner by 3 to 1,
    I called yesterday (714-692-1013). Went to walgreens and bought
    some boxes @ $29.99. Kept the case box, date was aug 9. Opened
    1 box, got 2 no banners. New beckett has card @ $20. Most dealers
    are either confused about the Ryan issue or don't know anything
    about it. Boxes are already up to $70 at the shops.
     Have a show here this weekend, will check on box and card prices.
    
    	jim@abo

    
     A guy at the show on Lincoln St. in Worc. had the 1990 sets 1-800
    for $50. How come I never see these deals when I'm looking to buy??
    #8{).GRRRRRRR!

At the Merrimack NH show, I saw full sets selling for $59...

Mb

    
    Went to the show here in albq. this weekend. '90 sets were going
    for $90, but a dealer from here said when he gets his in they will
    go for $59.95. Didn't see but one box of high series foil, it went
    fast for $1.25/pack. One dealer had 2 no banner Ryans, both @ $20.
    
    	jim

    They were selling in Albany for $59 as well...  don't remember what
    the Ryans were going for.

I saw Ryans going from $15 to $50.  Boxes from 2 @$78 to $50 each.

    
    Walgreens will have complete sets for $35, they are already 10 day
    late.
    

Just curious, but is there any Wallgreens in Eastern Mass, Southern NH?

I've never heard of them. (maybe I'm working too much? ....nahhhh).

-v-

    
    re.69
    
    The mgr said the sugg.retail is $44.95 and his cost is $30. HE said
    he would let me have them for $35. only time will tell. 
    Also, if you missed my reply in the score note, '90 score sets will
    go for $18-$19.99.
    
    tired of the high priced shops, jim@abo

    
    Grrrrrrrrreen! But, I don't know where any Walgreen's are either.:-)!!
    How do you paint a smiley sucker?
    Bill

    
    Guess I'll just have to pass the one I have off to someone else
    and drive 500 miles to my local WAlgreens and buy more.8^)....:>)

    
    Like i said earlier guys, these dealers are walking out of these
    retail stores with cases in their arms as we speak. You have to
    beat them at their own game if you want to feel good about your
    investment. to me this is more than a hobby, it is an investment.
    I just got into it this summer and i already am seeing mark increases
    in prices. if i can buy a few boxes of ud (low series) from a retailer
    who is tired of looking at them (because of a $1.49 price tag) for
    .50 a pack, then what the hel*, now i have one to open and enjoy
    as well as a couple to hold for my trip to vegas in '95.
    
    jim 

    There's one in Lexington as well...

    I got a mail ad from Bart's Baseball Cards this weekend offering 1990
    sets (1-800) at $42 each postpaid; 5 sets @ $40 each; and a 15-set case
    for $555 ($37 each).  I went in with some other people to order a case
    and all 15 sets are spoken for, but I figured some of you guys might
    want to do a cooperative venture on your own. I ordered from Bart's
    last year, too. No problems.
    
    The address is 2299 Belvidere St., Waukegan, IL 60085
    Phone: (708) 623-3737
    
    Good Luck,
    Rick

I just started (re)collecting baseball cards about a month ago.  Prices
of UD here in Canada seems to be fairly high ($1.75-$2 per pack) compared to 
the prices down there.  I just started with DEC 2 weeks ago and will be in
Bedford, Mass for some training next week.  Any advice on the best place for
me to pick up a box or some packs while I'm down there?  Anybody know much
about the UD hockey sets coming out?

Thanks.
Grant MacDonald
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
639-4568

    I just heard of a guy who picked up a complete set of UD for $40 at
    Rich's Dept store.  Thats cheap!  I've seen them at shows for $80+. 
    Start looking at those flyers, and you will see great deals in there.
    To answer your question, there should be a lot of shows around if you
    plan on coming in on a weekend.  Bedford is pretty centrally located.
    I know of a show in Westboro on Dec 2 at the KofC Hall.  I'm sure
    there will be a few others around the RT128 area.

    Well, the price I got from Bart's Cards doesn't look quite so fantastic
    now, but they sure were quick.  Delivery was promised for "late
    November" but I received my cards last Friday (10-26). 

    I also ordered (3 sets)from Bart's Cards. The show I attended last
    weekend here in Atlanta  had them for $43. At the same show a friend
    of mine picked up a high number wax box for $30. 
    
    
    Steve
    

    
    	Wallgreens in Mass. is selling Upper Deck complete Factory sets
    	in the fancy colored box (1-800) for $39.99.  Check the store
    	nearest you, the one nearest me only had about 6 sets left, but
    	I have heard from others that still had quite a few available.

    The card store in Billrica has got the UD packs for .75 each. I don't
    remember the name of the place but there can't be too many card shops
    in Billrica.
    
    
    
    
    
                                     -pj-

    
    
    	BJ's in Westboro, Mass is selling complete factory sets (1-800)
    
    	for $40.  Yesterday, when I was there, they had many cases of these
    
    	sets by the candy department.

    Still falling...
    
    I picked up a set at a show in Albany for $35....