| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 27.1 |  | HITEST::PARADISO | Oh Mr. Donoho, Mail Call | Fri Jan 29 1988 09:37 | 14 | 
|  | 
   I'll let you guys in on something that a dealer I know very well told me.
   In the 1988 Topps set, there are cards of Keith Comstock of the Padres
   that have the word "PADRES" in white lettering instead of the yellow.
   This card WAS corrected and your odds in getting one in a set are 1
   in 19.  Getting them in a wax pack is difficult, because they stopped
   putting his card in the packs when they discovered the error and just
   now are placing it in the packs again (corrected). 
   Of course he's no superstar but a card like that is usually worth about
   15 times its normal value.
							Dave
   
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| 27.4 | this and that | IND::FERRES |  | Wed Feb 03 1988 08:48 | 12 | 
|  |     Last weekend I picked up:
    1982 Pascual Perez (no position) - hard to find, and expensive,
          but I got a good deal.
    several 1974 Washington Nat'ls
    A pair of Mattingly trademark/no trademark variations.
    
    Hmmm, I didn't realize that that white/yellow was a variation
    rather than a printing error - thanks, I'll keep my eyes open
    for it.
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 27.6 |  | HITEST::PARADISO | Oh Mr. Donoho, Mail Call | Tue Feb 09 1988 11:18 | 12 | 
|  | 
>    What if I have a blue-letter variation?  (*SERIOUSLY*)
>    
    								-rjk
     Blue?  I haven't heard of a blue one!  I'd hold onto it Roy, you never
     know you might have something special.  I can't see a Blue Padres card,
     because the name of the team almost always is a color of the teams
     uniforms.  It must look GROSS! Aren't the Padres brown and yellow?
									Dave
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| 27.7 | It worked for rookie prices. | DISSRV::NORRIS | What is it, Miss Pfeffernuss? | Tue Feb 09 1988 16:06 | 36 | 
|  |     I think there are two types of variations; Something went wrong
    and color/minor/wording errors. Something went wrong are the cards
    like the Washington Nationals error. The other type is foolish.
    Big deal, Mattingly didn't have a trademark on his All Star card.
    It was a minor error and that's all. Not a complete bunder. And
    the fools in the trade rags promote this sort of thing! They have
    people with zero social life sitting at home with the cards under
    electron microscopes looking for errors, example:
    
    Dr Baseball Card God; I have a 1960 Hank Aaron and noticed that
    the third blade of grass to the right is taller than the rest of
    the blades, was this grass fixed to the correct length and 
    re-released, what is the value of my card? - John Bugeye
    
    Mr Bugeye; that card never was corrected and you can find the worth
    in our daily price guide now on sale at newstands across the country
    for only $19.95 or subscribe now and save $1.00 over a five year
    period.
    Dr Baseball Card God; My 1955 Chevy Belair was hit by a bus and
    totally ruined. Do you know if the body shop has fixed it yet? -
    Bob Greaser
    Mr Greaser, that car never was corrected and you can find the worth
    in our daily price guide now on sale at newstands across the country
    for only $19.95 or subscribe now and save $1.00 over a five year
    period.
    
    Bleeeeeeeeeeeech!
    
    If these idiots at the rags stop this foolishness, Roy wouldn't
    be worried about blue letters, It's a coloring error! Let's talk
    real variations, Marc Sullivan's 1988 card which has a variation
    of his real picture and then corrected picture of a can of Alpo.
    
    Ed
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| 27.9 |  | HITEST::PARADISO | Oh Mr. Donoho, Mail Call | Wed Feb 10 1988 09:42 | 7 | 
|  | 
   Roy my son,
        Don't let those cardboard savers get to you!
							- Dr. Card God -
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| 27.10 |  | DISSRV::NORRIS | What is it, Miss Pfeffernuss? | Wed Feb 10 1988 13:57 | 21 | 
|  |     Roy, my "attack" was not against you but the whole idea in general.
    Read your BBC Magazine and look at the stuff people think are errors,
    then ask if it has corrected and what's it worth. The standard
    answer is NO and buy our new price guide. I notice color differences
    also, but some of these guys want to know if the Buckner card was
    corrected because he's listed at 208 lbs. and the media guide has
    him at 209 lbs.
    
    I wish I was a card printer, I'd make a mint! Oooops to much Red
    in the lettering, hold cards for a few years, write to magazine
    and the "variation"... Ooops picture printed backward... Ooops
    forgot the position... etc. There are no laws on the printing of
    cards, unlike money and stamps where variations are fixed and
    destoried before ever hitting the public. Sometimes I think the
    card companies do this on purpose just to sell more cards.
    
    To everyone: don't be afraid to ask/comment, if we all agreed
    on everything it would be a boring world, besides Tony and I need
    something to mouth off on :-)
    
    Ed
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| 27.12 | I wonder if there are any more? | NETWRK::GSMITH | Double Trouble | Mon Mar 21 1988 12:52 | 13 | 
|  |      Talk about variations... You guys here about the guy who saw a
    box of Wheaties with the 'World Champion Denver Broncos' pictured
    on it? He apparently was buying a box of cereal, and saw this 'slight'
    variation.
    
    He has already been offered $10,000 (ten thousand) dollars for it!!!
    I guess there were boxes of BOTH the Redskins and Broncos made up
    so that they would be out the next week. The boxes with the loosing
    team were destroyed... or supposed to be..
    
    I guess there are some variations worth noting  8*)
    
     Smitty
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| 27.14 |  | TALLIS::DIFONZO |  | Wed Apr 20 1988 13:57 | 5 | 
|  |     Can anyone tell me what the variations with 1988 Topps Al Leiter
    and checklist #6 are?
    
    Thanks,
    	John
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| 27.15 | Al is not himself today | AKOV85::GARAHAN |  | Wed Apr 20 1988 15:21 | 5 | 
|  |     I Believe the variation with the Al Leiter card is that it is actually
    the picture of someone else.  I can tell you who if I look it up
    tonight.
    
    						Tim Garahan
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| 27.16 | > Errors < | REMACP::RICHARDSON |  | Thu Apr 21 1988 09:27 | 6 | 
|  |     The picture is of Steve George for #18b, I dont know of the checklist
    #6 error, but there is two variations of card #778 / Keith Comstock.
    It comes with 'White' Team letters or 'Blue' Team letters on front,
    the blue letters are most common.
    
    -John 
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| 27.17 | Reissue | 4973::AARONSON |  | Thu Apr 21 1988 11:15 | 3 | 
|  |     TOPPS is going to reissue another card with the correct picture
    on it. Should be out soon. Can only guess what that means to the
    Steve George ones.
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| 27.19 |  | TALLIS::DIFONZO |  | Thu Apr 21 1988 12:44 | 6 | 
|  |     Roy,
    	Since I don't know what Leiter looks like how can I tell the
    difference? Is this other player also in the set?
    
    Thanks,
    	John
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| 27.21 | > Gary Pettis Error?? < | REMACP::RICHARDSON |  | Fri Apr 22 1988 16:22 | 16 | 
|  |     Is anyone familiar with this card of Gary Pettis when he was with 
    the California Angels:
    It is a picture of his 16 year old brother on the card instead of
    himself? A fellow I work with asked me to look it up for him, he
    said another guy he knows has one and showed it to him and pointed
    out the picture difference.
    
    My cards look normal, he was sure it was TOPPS, but then again -
    who knows.  Any ideas? Values? Sure, some variations are a
    difference of .10c common/ $2.50 error, some are .10c common/$70.00
    error.
    
    
    -John
    
    -John
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| 27.22 | Anyone hear about this? | TALLIS::DIFONZO |  | Tue Apr 26 1988 13:41 | 9 | 
|  |     Could anyone out there who has 1974 Topps check on this for me.
    I have a Ray Burris ( his rookie card) that I think may be an error.
    You will notice that on  this set the backs are horizontal with
    the number in a circle that is also in a horzontal position. I have
    a card and the number is in a vertical position. I was wondering
    wether this is an error or not. The card is #161.
    
    Thanks,
    	John
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| 27.23 | Looks like an error but not a variation. | LDYBUG::HUNT | VAX Hacks | Wed Apr 27 1988 08:44 | 14 | 
|  |     I checked mine (I only have one 1974 #161) and its the same as you
    describe.  While this is obviously an "error", it's not a "variation"
    unless they corrected it at some point during the run. "Error" cards
    are seldom worth more than normal cards.
    
    One problem with "variation" cards is determining which variation
    is scarcer.  I remember the "Bump Wills" variation a few years back
    where I think he was printed for two teams.  While the cards were
    still available in stores some ads were selling BOTH variations
    for $3 to  $6 dollars!!!  It was a while before people agreed which
    one was scarce (I think it turned out that neither was especially
    scarce).
    
    -Russell
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| 27.24 |  | TALLIS::DIFONZO |  | Wed Apr 27 1988 08:56 | 5 | 
|  |     Thanks Russell,
    	I thought it probably wasn't a variation since I've never seen
    it listed in any price guide, just wondering. You never can tell.
    
    John
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| 27.25 | > Question Answered  143.23 < | REMACP::RICHARDSON |  | Mon May 02 1988 14:08 | 12 | 
|  |     
    
    	ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE..
    
    	I just looked through this months Beckett guide/May and on 
    page 22 is my answer to #143.23.. "In 1984, Gary Pettis--then a
    rookie with the Califorinia Angels--jokingly sent his teen-age
    brother (Adam) to pose for Gary's 1985 FTC." 
    
    Ted (   ?   ) is a photgrapher for DONRUSS.
    
    -John R.
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| 27.26 | 1988 Topps variations | LDYBUG::HUNT | VAX Hacks | Fri May 06 1988 13:11 | 27 | 
|  |     In the May 6 issue of SCD they list:
                                                   MT        NR MT
18  Al Leiter (no "NY" on shirt, photo
               actually Steve George) and         .80+        .60
18  Al Leiter ("NY" on shirt, correct photo)      .80+        .60
along with
778 Keith Comstock (white team letters) and      1.25+        .90
778 Keith Comstock (blue team letters)            .15         .11
as the only corrected errors in the 1988 Topps set.  (No mention of
Checklist #6.)
    As I've mentioned before, I make a distinction between error cards
and variations.  Variations are errors that were corrected at some point.
Ever try to impress someone (non card collector) with an error?  "Yeah,
see Joe Nobody here throws left handed but they show him throwing right!"
You will get blank stares of "Who cares?"
   BUT, show them two cards, identical except the pictures are different,
and you can usually pique their curiosity. Its interesting at least.
(Color variations fall somewhere in between.  It will usually only interest
card collectors.)
-Russell
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| 27.27 | Variations in the 1988 Topps insert cards | MANTIS::HUNT | VAX Hacks | Fri May 06 1988 16:27 | 12 | 
|  |     OK variation fans, this is the moment you've all been waiting for.
    It has been discovered (and reported in SCD) that there are no fewer
    than three (3) variations of the Special Offer insert cards.  To
    the lower right of the sample card picture are the words "Cards
    Not Included". Variation #2 has a Black arrow covering the words
    and variation #3 has no words and no arrow.
    
    They suggest variation #1 seems to be the most scarce.  They also
    preface the paragraph with "Is everyone aware (or should I say 'Does
    anyone care')...?"  They also mention that they have no value.
    
    -Russell
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| 27.28 | Pictures Mixed up | CASINO::MCAULIFFE |  | Fri Sep 09 1988 08:02 | 8 | 
|  |     Re -.1
    
    Tony,
         The Kieth Moreland variation from the '88 Fleer set is his
    picture;  it's actually a shot of Jody Davis ....
    
     -Dan
    
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| 27.29 |  | IAMOK::NORRIS | What is it, Miss Pfeffernuss? | Fri Sep 09 1988 10:04 | 3 | 
|  |     Jody Davis is a catcher, so look for a mask :-)
    
    Ed
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| 27.30 | a newfound interest | BMT::FERRES | temporary space | Wed Sep 14 1988 07:56 | 12 | 
|  |     re: .32,.34,.35
    Gee, Tony is this the same guy from .8?
    Are you finally seeing the light and actually gaining an
    interest in variations?
    Watch out gang, this guy is dangerous when he starts getting
    strong opinions!  :^)
    
    Next thing we know, Tony might get interested in printing
    errors as well :-)
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 27.31 | wish i had '58 yellow letters | BMT::FERRES | temporary space | Fri Sep 16 1988 07:42 | 10 | 
|  |     nah, Tony, it's just that I figure that if you actually DO
    get interested in variation cards (like all of us sensible
    people :-)  then maybe you could help me complete my collection
    of 1958 Yellow Letter variations ...
    
    anyone out there know where there are EX-MT older variation
    cards?
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 27.32 | connections | BMT::FERRES | temporary space | Mon Sep 19 1988 07:54 | 10 | 
|  |     interesting comment Tony - for those of you who aren't variation
    freaks:  '58 Yellow Letter variations, for instance have become
    VERY difficult to find in Nr Mt condition at REASONABLE prices
    in the course of the last several years.  Almost the only way
    to find such animals now is via 'contacts' - as Tony is pointing
    out, our hobby and its enjoyment thrive on the people involved
    much more so than on most dealers, shows, publications, etc
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 27.33 | Mike Greenwell blank-back | SMURF::BREAU |  | Mon Oct 03 1988 10:56 | 47 | 
|  | I read a lot of the responses to this topic, so I'll
add mine.  I was surprised that a lot of people were
joking about so-called variation cards.  My bet is that
as the hobby of baseball card collecting gets older (for
all practical purposes, the hobby is about 12 - 15 years
old, compared to a few hundred for stamp and coin collecting),
error or variation cards are going to be very valuable.  It's
just a matter of the law of supply-and-demand coming up
against the rapidly growing number of baseball card 
collectors.  Hey, let's face it, each one ouf
of us has his own sad tale of how his mom tossed away those
worthless cards.
Anyway, a few months ago I opened a wax pack and found a
Mike Greenwell blank-back.  I was miffed until I realized
what it really meant.  So, I went to a card show where
many dealers (who obviously wanted it) told me it was worth
a couple of bucks.  However, ONE dealer said, "Hey, don't
listen to any shit from these other clowns, just HOLD ONTO
THAT BABY for a while."  He gave me the address of a dealer
in Rhode Island whose specialty is variation/error baseball
cards.  I don't have it with me, but I'll find it and put
a note here soon.
By the way, does anyone know what it's worth?  I'm considering
trying to get Greenwell's autograph on the back, but would
that ruin its intrinsic worth as a genuine baseball card
rarity?
- Jim (can also be reached at ravine::breau)
< Note 143.0 by BMT::FERRES >
                              -< Variation Cards >-
    Who's interested in variation cards - e.g. 1958 yellow letters,
    1969 white letters, C vs G Nettles, etc (as opposed to printing
    errors, like blank backs, etc)?  I am - I'd love to find old
    quality variation cards.  I do have many now, but need more for
    my collection.  They're tough to find - they're not all that
    popular, so dealers don't always bring them to shows, or list
    them in advertisements.  On the other hand, dealers are smart
    enough to know that variations are more rare, so prices are
    often set way too high, now.  Also, decent quality can be hard
    to find.  How are things in your area?  Does anyone care?
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 27.34 |  | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN |  | Mon Oct 03 1988 23:53 | 9 | 
|  |     
    
    I never had any cards autographed, unless it was something that
    I didn't care about.  But isn't a blank-back card a printing error
    (i.e. defect) rather than a variation?
    
    glenn
    
    
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| 27.35 |  | THOTH::BIGLEY |  | Mon Dec 18 1989 08:42 | 4 | 
|  |     
     Does anyone know the value of the '89 Fleer Ripken error card?
                 
     Rick
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| 27.36 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Bo knows GIGI and ADA, nice girls! | Mon Dec 18 1989 09:58 | 12 | 
|  |     Rick,
    
    Which error?
    
    If it is the nasty one, then I would say that it will have to go
    up sooner or later because it is the original error.  However, the 
    scribble could be worth a little more because fewer were produced.
    The black box will never equal the other two.
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Glenn
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| 27.37 |  | THOTH::BIGLEY |  | Mon Dec 18 1989 11:35 | 5 | 
|  |     
     Thanks. $25 sounds right. I bought and '89 Factory Fleer for $23
    and the guy wanted $50 with the Ripken error included.
    
    Rick
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| 27.38 |  | WHELIN::DIFONZO |  | Tue Dec 26 1989 12:24 | 5 | 
|  |     Did anyone hear about a Nolan Ryan error/variation card in one of this
    years sets?
    
    John
    
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| 27.39 |  | ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE | It's all in the windows... | Tue Dec 26 1989 12:56 | 4 | 
|  | In the Donruss set.  I guess that there are around 10 errors in the Donruss
cards that have been found so far!  Boxes of Wax are going for $35 on average.
Mb
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| 27.42 |  | ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE | It's all in the windows... | Wed Dec 27 1989 08:52 | 5 | 
|  | I've got one of each of the Ryan errors that I'll let go for the $25 apiece.
Mb
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| 27.43 |  | 29376::G_GEIGER | Bo knows GIGI and ADA, nice girls! | Wed Dec 27 1989 15:28 | 9 | 
|  |     Re: ....Selling the stuff by companies.
    
    I'm getting to the point where error cards are more of a bother 
    than a thing to collect.  It just seems to me that all the companys
    do is turn out error cards.  Take for example the Ryne Sandberg (3B)
    error, anyone with any kind of brain knows that Ryno plays second base.
    
    NUFF SAID
    Glenn
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| 27.55 | Ozzie Newsome birthdate | EBBV03::MONDALTO |  | Tue Jan 09 1990 06:32 | 15 | 
|  | 
    While I was brousing through my Football cards,I noticed the 
    Topps (FOOTBALL) card of Ozzie Newsome's birthdate,does not 
    match the Topps 1989 birth date. Could someone please tell me
    Which of these cards is in error.............John
    
                                      
         #110  AFC ALL PRO     1980  Birthdate  3-15-56
         #151                  1989  Birthdate  3-16-56
                                                           
    
    
    
    
    
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| 27.52 | Good help is so hard to find | DEALIN::DIFONZO |  | Mon Jan 15 1990 13:05 | 9 | 
|  |     Yes this is a racket. I said jokingly to myself, I've got to get my
    cards early because they are the ones that will contain the errors.
    I agree with John, just say no. You can blame the make a quick buck
    dealers but, the fault has to partly rest with the greedy
    collector/invester/gambler ( whatever ) who buys the packs at these
    ridiculous prices. Amazing how many error cards have been produced
    since '87.
    
    John 
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| 27.53 |  | DEALIN::DIFONZO |  | Mon Jan 15 1990 13:10 | 7 | 
|  |     And another thing, every show you go to these dealers are selling these 
    errors (meaning they think the errors have peaked ). Let me ask you
    this, when was the last time you saw a Joe Montana rookie at a card
    show? I think some of these collector/invester types get what they
    deserve. When will they ever learn?
    
    John
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| 27.54 | more disgust | FSTVAX::JMAXWELL |  | Tue Jan 16 1990 15:07 | 18 | 
|  |     The "hobby" has definitely gotten so out of control that I have given
    up buying cards.  I only go to shows featuring Hall of Famer guests.
    I get a few things autographed and enjoy meeting some of Baseball's
    Greats.  Whatever I have signed, I know cannot be replace by a new
    "variation" in a high priced wax-pack.
       In my opinion, if you collect cards for the "sake  of collecting" go
    for the old stuff (back in the days of just 1 company and limited
    quanities).  You can still get a Spahn or Aaron for just a few dollars.
    These guys have proven themselves! wheras what has a Ben Mcdonald
    proven?
       On the other hand, if you buy cards as an investment, then Good Luck
    getting your money back 5-6 years down the road.  I really feel that 
    the bottom will fall out of this "hobby" in a few more years when a lot
    more of us "common folk" respond to the card companies anouncements of
    errors and variations with a loud ----WHO CARES?
    
    Just my own opinion---------Jeff
    
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| 27.58 | Error card question from a new guy. | HPSTEK::SCHWARTZ | Back in Black | Thu Feb 08 1990 11:05 | 21 | 
|  |       Before you guys fall off your chairs laughing at some of the questions
    that I might ask from time to time, keep in mind that I am so new at
    this that I can,t even be classified as novice yet.
    
      With all tha ado about error cards, I noticed that some dealers are
    asking as much as $30 for Harold Baines star error card. Why has no 
    one made any ado about the line running thru the "S" on Sergio Valdez's
    card  No. 3???????  Btw it has been corrected. I have Two w/this (??)
    error, but I have not seen it at a show or even mentioned anywhere.
    Don't they consider this an error? I also have another since they
    consider the star an error. Diamond King No. 3 ...I have 4 of these
    cards where the index mark does not run to the top of the card.There is
    a mark at the bottom, but nothing at the top. This has been corrected
    also.....what gives? is this an error and if it is why doesn't anyone
    know about it. They both seem as stupid as the star error and a damn
    sight more rare.
    
      I would expect that the Ryan backs error prices will drop quickly. We
    have 8 pairs of'em. It is common. 
    
      Do error cards ever gain value as collector's items???
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| 27.59 | ooops! make that card No. 405 | HPSTEK::SCHWARTZ | Back in Black | Thu Feb 08 1990 12:13 | 2 | 
|  |       correction: that should have been card 405 Sergio Valdez.
    
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| 27.60 | My sons drivin me "NUTS" !!! | SA1794::DANIELET |  | Thu Feb 22 1990 12:47 | 4 | 
|  |     	Does anybody out there have a list of "Hoops" errors/variations
    ???  Are color variations common ?
    
    					Tony
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| 27.61 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | That dog will hunt!.... | Thu Feb 22 1990 13:43 | 21 | 
|  |     Hoops erorrs........
    
    Spud Webb, on the back says "signed free agent contract on ??/??/89"
    The corrected would be, "85"
    
    Coach Bikerstaff (SP?) has a wrong birthday, "1944" is the corrected.
    
    Orlando Woolridge, no 'TM' on the lakers logo on back.
    
    Coach John McLoed, NBA logo is in the pitcher on the back, corrected
    has the logo removed.
    
    And maybe there is a Cotton Fitzsimmons error, I have yet to see a
    corrected.  There is no NBA logo on the card.  Maybe this is just a 
    variation.
    Also there might be a Willis Reed error, where it says college the
    error says "Gambling" as opposed to "gRambling", but I have not seen
    any errors.
    
    Want some, I've got 'em!
    Glenn Geiger
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| 27.62 | Goin Round Comin Round | ASDS::KELLY |  | Thu Mar 29 1990 15:11 | 6 | 
|  |     re .60
    See Becketts Basketball Price Guide-The one with Jordan on the cover
    a complete list is enclosed.  You might want to visit your local
    friendly card dealer.
    Does anyone else see the poetic justice-Your son is interested in Hoops
    errors.  It goes around. 
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| 27.63 | YELLOW 90 | WMOIS::DION_R |  | Tue Apr 24 1990 10:28 | 9 | 
|  |     
    
    
    NEED INFORMATION ON A CARD I BOUGHT. IT IS A 1990 FLEER #353
    DAVE MARTINEZ WITH THE 90 ON THE TOP IN YELLOW INSTEAD OF RED.
    HEARD IT WAS VERY RARE CALLED A PLACE IN N.Y. DOES NOT KNOW
    ABOUT IT. BEEN TO CARD SHOWS NOBODY SEEN OR HEARD OF IT EITHER.
    
             
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| 27.64 | 87D Brantley | CLOVE::JACUNSKI |  | Thu May 03 1990 09:32 | 5 | 
|  |     I noticed my 1987 Donruss Mickey Brantley (#656) has a reversed back,
    i.e., the back is upside down when compared to others in a stack whose
    fronts are all oriented the same.  Have any of you ever heard of this
    one, and was it corrected in the factory set (I'm sure my card was from
    a wax or rack pack)?
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| 27.66 | No factories involved? | CLOVE::JACUNSKI |  | Thu May 03 1990 16:23 | 5 | 
|  |     Thanks, Roy. I'll check the rest of the batch, which numbered about 800
    cards, but Brantley was the only wrong-way that caught my eye. The
    reason I wondered is because it's unlikely I'd have a single
    factory-set card in this batch, which I believe all came from wax or
    racks.
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| 27.67 |  | USWAV1::VINTON |  | Thu May 03 1990 17:15 | 5 | 
|  |     I have several with reversed backs also.  A dealer somewhere told me
    that Donruss manufactures cards at 2 locations and for some unknown
    reason in 87 they reversed the backs between the two.
    
    
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| 27.68 |  | THOTH::BIGLEY |  | Mon May 07 1990 15:50 | 6 | 
|  |     
     I opened an '88 Fleer update set and there was a Tommy Gregg card in
    there and the guy pictured did not look like him. ie.. wrong skin
    color. Is anyone aware of this error or are there two Tommy Gregg's?
    
    Rick
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| 27.69 | UER | USWAV1::VINTON |  | Mon May 07 1990 16:14 | 4 | 
|  |     Becketts has 88 Fleer update card # U113 as an uncorrected error card
    worth $.30.  I guess that must be what you have.
    
    
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| 27.70 | Odibbe & Oddibe | EBBV03::MONDALTO |  | Fri May 18 1990 13:06 | 7 | 
|  |     I just found an overlooked 1990 error Oddibe McDowell. Card #145
    Upperdeck.
    
    The card reads,      Odibbe McDowell on both sides.
    
                               John
    
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| 27.71 | No asterisk, either | SAGE::JACUNSKI |  | Wed Jun 20 1990 09:57 | 4 | 
|  |     Who is the all-time major league single-season homerun leader? Roger
    Maris? Babe Ruth? No sir, it's none other than that slick-fielding Red
    Sox shortstop, DON BUDDIN. You don't believe me? Check out his 1961
    Topps card.
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| 27.72 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Sorry, don't walk to dog! | Wed Jun 20 1990 10:02 | 4 | 
|  |     What is the card number?
    I've got, what seems to be, a billion '61 commons.
    
    GG
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| 27.73 |  | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Thu Jun 21 1990 16:06 | 15 | 
|  |     Yesterday I purchased a 1974 Topps Football #101 (Gary Garrison) that
    had 1972 (not 1973) statistics on the back.  My other #101 had 1973
    stats on it.
    
    Last week I saw the following errors on 1990 Fleer Football:
    
    	#10 Montana -  yardage and completions switched.
    		       31000+ completions for only 200+ yards.
    
    	#82 I saw both Randall Cunningham and Byron Evans with card #82.
    
    Not an error just a note:  Fleer90 - #1 Pick Jeff George, card #664 (I
    think it was 664).
    
    Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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| 27.75 | This Buddin's For You | SAGE::JACUNSKI |  | Fri Jun 22 1990 09:44 | 3 | 
|  |     re .72
    
    Don Buddin's 1961 Topps card is #99.
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| 27.76 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Sorry, don't walk the dog! | Fri Jun 22 1990 11:22 | 5 | 
|  |     Glenn,
    
    The Jeff George Fleer card is number 669.
    
    GG
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| 27.77 | Question | UPWARD::KAPLAN | subtlety..SUBTLETY..<<S U B T L E T Y>> | Mon Jun 25 1990 10:53 | 4 | 
|  |     I am not understanding something.  The Fleer 1990 football set I have
    only has 400 cards (+25 specials).  How can any card be numbered 6xx?
    
    								phil
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| 27.78 |  | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | Vom Hochland German Shepherds | Mon Jun 25 1990 11:42 | 6 | 
|  |     Don't know Phil, but I do know that I saw it, held it, smelled it, etc.
    
    Does anyone know how many Chargers are included in the 25 All-Pro cards
    that Fleer 1990 has put out?
    
    Thanks.....Glenn
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| 27.79 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Sorry, don't walk the dog! | Mon Jun 25 1990 16:56 | 10 | 
|  |     ***********Error report***********
    
    In the Fleer '90 FB cards, there is a Bobby Humphries
    error card.  You get to guess which Humphries!  :*|
    
    The Jet's defensive back is on the front, but the
    Broncos running back is on the back.
    
    Go figure,
    GG
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| 27.80 | Confusion reigns, Humphery vs Humphrey | SALEM::ALIZIO |  | Thu Jun 28 1990 08:35 | 13 | 
|  |     
    
    re. .79
    
    Bobby Humphery plays for the Jets.
    
    Bobby Humphrey plays for the Broncos.
    
    If the card spells the name as "Humphries", it is a double error.
    
    
    						      -	Paul
    
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| 27.81 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Sorry, don't walk the dog! | Thu Jun 28 1990 10:25 | 4 | 
|  |     Well then I think that .79, written by me, is an error.
    Sorry, errors are everywhere!
    
    GG
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| 27.82 | ERROR #639 ???? | WAV13::MITCHELL |  | Thu Jun 28 1990 18:13 | 7 | 
|  |     HELP
    
    IS #639 JACK MORRIS A ERROR.
    I HAVE ONE WITH A BLACK LINE THAT GOES THROUGH
    THE J IN JACK.
    
    THANKS DAVE
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| 27.83 |  | CSC32::G_GEIGER | Sorry, don't walk the dog! | Fri Jun 29 1990 01:37 | 5 | 
|  |     I assume '90 Donruss Baseball?!
    
    If so, it is not an error, but a variation.
    
    GG
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| 27.84 | DONRUSS | WAV12::MITCHELL |  | Fri Jun 29 1990 17:13 | 5 | 
|  |     SORRY I FORGOT TO TELL YOU WHAT FIND OF 
    CARD IT WAS, AND YES IT WAS A DONRUSS
    
    THANKS DAVE
    
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| 27.85 |  | CHFS32::HMONTGO | Ditto-head | Sun Jul 15 1990 10:08 | 4 | 
|  |     I have three of these but the variation does not add any value.
    
    		Ben
    
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| 27.86 | '85 DONRUSS CORRECTIONS(SEAVER/PENDELTON) | ELMAGO::JVERGO |  | Thu Aug 02 1990 12:06 | 17 | 
|  |     
    GANG,
    	I'M NEW TO COLLECTING AND HAVE JUST PURCHASED A COMPLETE SET
    OF '85 DONRUSS BB . IT WAS HAND COLLATED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS
    NOT AWARE OF THE SEAVER AND PENDELTON ERROR/CORRECTION ISSUE.
    UPON GOING THROUGH THE SET I DICOVERED I HAD A SET THAT CONTAINED
    THE ERRORS AND NOT THE CORRECTIONS. WELL, I WAS UPSET ABOUT THIS
    AND CALLED THE DEALER RIGHT AWAY. HE WAS VERY DEFENSIVE AND SAID
    HE WOULD REFUND MY MONEY AND THAT ONLY THE COMPLETE CONTAINED THE
    CORRECTIONS. I SAID WELL WHY DID YOU CHARGE ME THE TOP PRICE IF
    I WASN'T GETTING THE BEST SET. 
    	ANYWAY, COME TO FIND OUT THAT THOSE CORRECTIONS ARE HARD TO
    FIND AND WILL COST 2 TO 3 TIME BOOK. 
    	I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS.
    
    					JIM@ABO
    
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| 27.87 | Don't Flip Your Burnoose! | SAGE::JACUNSKI |  | Mon Aug 06 1990 13:33 | 10 | 
|  |     Jim, I don't think you were getting hosed, unless you got charged way
    over the book price.  The corrected cards appeared only in the factory-
    sealed sets, the errors only in wax and rack packs.  When the errors
    were discovered, everybody got all excited (just as with this year's
    Donruss Ryan errors), but the prices came way down by the end of the
    year and haven't done much since. I think you might be talking a $5-$10
    difference between the errors and correction, really negligible in a
    set that goes for $125-$175.  Usually, when someone advertises a
    "complete set," it does NOT imply that all variations are included.
    
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| 27.88 | Some Variation with prices | SOFBA1::BELISLE | Mike Belisle MRO4-1/H20 297.3324 | Wed Sep 05 1990 08:23 | 32 | 
|  | 
    1990 Fleer Football
    10A Montana	    Err	    $9.00
    10B	Montana	    Cor	    $1.50
   289A Butler	    Err/Err $9.00   Punter/P   
   289B	Butler	    Cor/Err $3.00   Placekicker/P
   289C Butler	    Cor/Cor $ .15   Placekicker/PK
    1990 Pro Set Football
    15A Stanley	    87/8    $5.00
    15B	Stanley	    87/86   $ .25
    19A Ware	    Err	    $3.00 (no Traded Stripe)
    19B Ware	    Cor	    $5.00
    63A Dixon	    Err	    $4.00 (missing Bio)
    63B	Dixon	    Cor	    $ .35
    68A	Wyche	    Err	    $3.00 (missing Bio)
    68B	Wyche	    Cor	    $ .10
   110A Holland	    Err	    $7.50 (missing name on back)
   110B Holland	    Cor	    $ .10
   111A Kemp	    Err	    $9.00 (Ken Stills on Back)
   111B Kemp	    Cor	    $ .30
   319A Perkins	    Err	    $6.00
   319B Perkins	    Cor	    $ .10
   343A Hinton	    Err	    $4.00 (no Traded Stripe)
   343B Hinton	    Cor	    $ .20
    CC2    Tagliabue	$ 11
    SP1    Stewart	$ 11
    669    George	$ 10
    xxx    Lombardi	$500
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| 27.89 | source please.. | WRKSYS::SCHWARTZ |  | Wed Sep 05 1990 12:03 | 3 | 
|  |     
      What source are you using for prices on these variations?
    Most are way off from those I have seen in SCD.
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| 27.90 |  | SOFBA1::BELISLE | Mike Belisle MRO4-1/H20 297.3324 | Wed Sep 05 1990 13:01 | 5 | 
|  |     
>>>      What source are you using for prices on these variations?
>>>    Most are way off from those I have seen in SCD.
    Beckett's October 
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| 27.91 | '75 Topps Ralph Garr #550 | SMURF::BREAU | Bush: KNOW new taxes! | Mon Sep 10 1990 12:31 | 10 | 
|  |     
    My '75 Topps card of Ralph Garr (#550) contains an error on the back. 
    Garr was not a pitcher and the column header for his yearly batting
    average reads ERA, instead of AVG.  I'm willing to bet that this is one
    card that has never been corrected, so it's not of any value.  It was
    printed before card companies "accidentally-on-purpose" printed error 
    cards.  If any of you noters do find a corrected version, post it here.
    
    - Jim
         
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| 27.92 | RAY BOURQE ERROR | WAV13::MITCHELL |  | Mon Sep 10 1990 17:46 | 2 | 
|  |     ERROR ON A RAY BOURQE CARD GOING FOR 25$.
    BOURQE WAS SPELLED BORQE, SORRY DON'T KNOW WHAT SET.
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| 27.93 | Any knowledgable Classic Card Collectors??? | EBCOT::ALPERIN |  | Mon Nov 26 1990 10:35 | 8 | 
|  |     Does anyone know what the errors are on the Classic Card NL hits Kings 
    (Clark and Gwynn) and Bay Bombers (Clark and Mitchell)?  I noticed in
    the Tuff Stuff there were errors with the cards and I was curious as
    to the error...
    
    Thanks, 
    
     Bob
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| 27.95 |  | EBCOT::ALPERIN |  | Mon Nov 26 1990 13:25 | 7 | 
|  |     John,
    
    Thanks for the info...In the Tuff Stuff it does have '(err)' next to it
    and one have a $6 price tag compared to .40 cents...Quite a price
    difference for a variation...
    
    Bob
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| 27.96 | 2 for the price of 1 | EBCOT::ALPERIN |  | Tue Nov 27 1990 11:31 | 8 | 
|  |     Here is another one...My brother has a 90' Upper Deck card with 
    Erik Hanson (#235) and the front and Cal Ripken on the back (his
    picture and his stats, #266).  What is its worth??  And it isn't 
    2 cards stuck together....Is this a known error (wasn't in any guides)
    does anyone know of players on the front with different player on the
    back???
    
    Bob
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| 27.98 |  | EBCOT::ALPERIN |  | Tue Nov 27 1990 14:13 | 6 | 
|  |     John,
    
    When you say they want alot of money, how much are you talking???  He 
    wants to sell it, but doesn't want to get 'taken' by a dealer...
    
    Bob
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| 27.100 |  | WRKSYS::SCHWARTZ |  | Wed Nov 28 1990 11:59 | 4 | 
|  |     
     ...Or they can be cut from waxbox tops. This was done by a certain
    young dealer at the Marlboro show a couple of months ago. Don't worry,
    he's not there anymore.
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| 27.101 |  | RDOVAX::BRAKE | Rich Brake in Virginia | Wed Jan 09 1991 10:05 | 19 | 
|  |     re  Note 27.71 by SAGE::JACUNSKI
    
    >    Who is the all-time major league single-season homerun leader? Roger
    >    Maris? Babe Ruth? No sir, it's none other than that slick-fielding Red
    >    Sox shortstop, DON BUDDIN. You don't believe me? Check out his 1961
    >    Topps card.
    
    
    Funny, I just picked up a 1957 Topps Don Buddin and it lists him as
    hitting 66 HR's in 1956. I haven't seen his '61 card but it seems this
    error went undetected for at least 4 years.
    
    For any of you old enough to actually remember Don Buddin, this is
    really quite amusing. His nickname was "Bootin' Buddin" since he was a
    shortstop version of Dick Stuart. 
    
    Rich
    
    
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| 27.102 | RE: #639 JACK MORRIS ERROR | SAHQ::GARD |  | Sat Jan 12 1991 14:36 | 5 | 
|  |     
 YES, IT IS AN ERROR.  I HAVE ONE WITH A LINE TROUGH THE J ALSO.
    
    REGARDS BRIAN
    
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| 27.103 | Blank back cards (sky box) | TEMPE::RABINO |  | Sun Aug 04 1991 16:07 | 13 | 
|  |     
     Hello,
    
     My son opened a box of Sky Box II, and it had two
    cards that had blank backs. Have any notes file
    readers seen this type of card before? I do believe
    its a printing error. But I'm just curious if anybody
    has any cards like these. The players are Joe Wolf
    (Denver Nuggets) and Tim Mc Cormick (Atlanta Hawks).
     
    
                          Have a nice one,
    ted
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| 27.105 | Blank backs | TEMPE::RABINO |  | Mon Aug 05 1991 08:55 | 14 | 
|  |     
    Thanks John,
    
     On the reply, ever since I told my son about this 
    note file he's been asking me to ask that question
    about the blank backs. But I also got several 
    out of a box, a Erwin Johnson and some others. Yes,
    I've heard about the Upper deck cards being able to 
    do that, the eraser trick that is. A dealer wanted to
    buy the Erwin I had but I said I'll hold on to it for
    a while.   
    
    
    ted
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| 27.106 | Reused Staubach photo | ZENDIA::SCHOTT |  | Mon Nov 22 1993 12:08 | 15 | 
|  |     Over this weekend, I noticed that my 1974 and 1975 Roger Staubach
    cards are the same picture, slightly difference posing.  I have
    a '73, '74, and '75 Staubach and when put next to each other,
    the 74 and 75 have the same bandage on this left elbow, same 
    notch in his hairdoo, same facial stubble, etc. etc.  The '75 photo
    used was obviously shot during the '74 photo shoot.  I'm sure
    that happens a lot.
    
    
    					Eric
    
    p.s. I think this happened this year in the Topps baseball set with
    Gary Gaetti and some catcher.  One photo show Gaetti sliding into
    home, the other shows the catcher tagging him out.  Both are blowups
    of the same photo.
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