Conference rusure::nintendo

    Somewhere in the notefile, there was someone that said they saw a
    similar ad where one VIDEOCassette played multiple games.
    
    It turned out to be a fake ad, in GAMES magazine. Did you happen
    to see this ad in THAT magazine?
    
    if not - let's keep our eyes open - but my guess is its another
    bogus ad. We'll probably have to wait for a cd player/interface
    before you get more than a couple games on a cartridge. 
    (Super Mario/Duck Hunt) was difficult enough (for Nintendo).

�    We'll probably have to wait for a cd player/interface
�    before you get more than a couple games on a cartridge. 
�    (Super Mario/Duck Hunt) was difficult enough (for Nintendo).
    
    What was so difficult about it?  They seem to have done a good job, and
    they even put a third game on the pak - the track & field game for the
    PowerPad.

    It's not bogus.
    One of our manager bought one.
    It's the famicom (sp) games...I'm told.
    You get the adapter and the single cartridge
    no instructions. The top is in Japanese, the back
    has the game titles  listed in english.
    One game mentioned to me was popeye.
    
    I don't know much else not having seen it.
    But it is for real. 
    My son also mentioned that a friend of his was getting one
    with 30 games.
    
    I'd hate to have one go bad...you lose 40+ games in one shot.
    If I learn more I'll post. 
    
    
    richard
                        

    
    
    	re -1
    
    	Do you think you can get a list of the games that are on
    	this cartridge and find out what kind of warranty comes with it.
    
    	Also can you get the address of the place that sells these,
    	a phone number would be good too, but would be costly to us 
    	here in the US
    
    
    	any info would be appreciated.
        
    
    	Thanks 
    
    
    	Wayne

	Well, I decided to go ahead and purchase it.  It is, as .3 mentions,
	one of the smaller Japanese cartriges and it comes with a "converter"
	that allows it to be inserted directly into the North American NES.

	I received 45 games for $150 (Cdn).  All the titles on the cartridge
	differ slightly from the Nintendo versions of the game.  (Trademark/
	Copyright considerations?).  The only drawback is that instructions
	are not included for each of the games.  I've only played a couple
	of games so far and they appear identical to the regular Nintendo
	cartriges.  Considering the price of Nintendo cartridges, I'd say it's
	definitely worth the money if just simply for the sheer variety of
	games

	Here are the games that are on the cartridge:

	Tetris II		Excite Bike		Mahjong 4
	Donkey Kong		Combat			Balloon
	Super Mario Bros	Exerion			Formation
	Twin Bee		Pac Man			Lode Runner 1
	B Wings			Joust			Milk & Nuts
	1942			Mario Bros		Chack'n Pop
	Bomberman		Star Soldier		F1 Race
	Star Force		Othello			Donkey Kong
	Mappy			Ninja			Lode Runner 2
	Baseball		Arabian			Millipede
	Pin Ball		Road Fighter		Tennis
	Galaga			Dig Dug			Penguin Adventure
	Urban Champion		Kung Fu			Lunar Ball
	Battle City		Popeye			Circus
	Macros			Ice Climber		Front Line

							Steve.

    Yikes! what a great idea!
    
    I'm dying to find out where I can get this!
    
    jack
    (who can never have enough toys!)

    I got my hands on the 42 game version. It's a loaner to me.
    The games are the same as in the 45 game version except
    Tetris is missing. Most of the other major games are still present.
    I'll try it tonight. It's a two piece setup as Steve stated.
    
    The adapter has on it...
    72-60 PINS  T89
    CARTRIDGE CONVERTER
    
    The game cartridge itself has the games listed on one side
    and something in Japanese (I assume) on the other.
    There is a company logo type of graphic..I couldn't draw it either.
    
    I have now seen quite a few ads in the local paper
    selling 30,42 and 45 game sets. But they are all
    private sales, sort of out of the basement type of a setup.
    No company address just call after 5 type of deal.
    Although one would take a credit card.
    
    
    
    richard

    Hey Rich,
    
       What is the number/address for this game....
    
    

    I saw something similar in a store this weekend.  There was
    something like 8 to 10 games listed on the box and the box
    was slightly longer than the "regular" games.  The price on
    the box was $19.95 (there was more than one variation).
    
    Anyone else seen these and have any idea what they are?
    
    
    Bob

    phone numbers           it's probably best to call after 18:00 eastern 
    
    (613)-567-2424 Ask for Daniel    for 45 game cartridge that Steve got.
    (819)-643-9210                    31 and 42 game cartridge
    (819)-643-3612                    31 and 42 game cartridge
    
    I have no addresses as I haven't call any of these as yet.
    These were small ads saying to call.

    I went into every game on the 42 game cartridge. Needless to say I
    didn't cover all levels or screens.
    The cartridge is ****great**** with the kids. Mine are 6 and 11.
    With know instructions we were still able to get them going quite quickly.
    Yes most of the games are played in english.
    
    Quite afew of the games were those found on the poster
    you get when you buy the NES.  Therefore the majority
    of the games are NINTENDO produced games.
    
    The only games I would not play were something called
    Frontline and Mahjong (sp). Its gameplay was TOO slow and the graphic poorly done.
    Majhong isa  card game from what I can tell is still in Japanese. :-)
    
    The other games appear to be full featured games..multi-levels, etc.
    I know as some of them give you a choice as to what level to start play
    in. So though I picked Level 1 to evaluate the game, I did step through
    the selections of the other levels.
    
    Naturally there are duplication in game theme..ie Donkey Kong type
    games.; Burgertime type games.; galaga type games.  The key is they are
    all mainly arcade games no Zelda or Link here friends.
    
    Most of the games I was able to identify and are  not a cheap copy. 
    These are the real games though the names may be different.
    The only nit was the after game stats. On MOST of the game the letters
    were missing. Example.  PLAYER 1   GAME OVER 
    reads   		    PLAY R 1   GAM  OV R
    This was consistant in the games that it occur in. I didn't experiece
    any such holes in the playing screens though.
    
    I'd be interested in knowing if Tetris in the 45 game cartridge is
    the Tengen version or the Mattel/Nintendo.
    
    richard                                 

    I must say thanks to the people who tried (took a chance) the
    "many-in-1" cartridge.  After reading your replies, I ordered and
    recieved the 52-in-1.  IT'S GREAT!  It may not have all the latest
    (Batman,etc) but it has some real fun games and for less than $2.70 per
    game it was a steal.  It has Tetris II (tengen) and my favorite
    Pinball.  I'm not a heavy duty Nintendo player but my 8 year old says
    he loves the new cartridge and that's all I need to hear.
    
    Again thanks to everyone who had the guts to try this (questionable)
    product and then report back to notes.

    How did you order it and how much did it cost? Did you call one of
    the numbers in the previous replies? Where did it end up coming from?
    Inquirering minds want to know!!
    
    
    Ted

    This multi-game cartridge sounds interesting -- however, being in the
    software business, I'd like to respect copyright laws.  Is this cartridge
    licensed by the game manufacturers, or is this a pirate operation?

    RE. 14
    
      Thank You for the quick and more detailed response. All previous
    replies seemed pretty vague. Sounds like a very good deal!!!
    
    Ted

    re: .15
    
    It's not a pirate operation.
    I played the 42 version.
    These are Micro Genius cartridges.
    
    
    If you want another source. See in this conference the Mario notes
    I believe 326.?. 
    The address is
    Odyssey Video
    353 Montreal Road
    Cornwall,Ontario
    K6H 1B6
    (613)-938-0388
    
    They sell 52-1, 45-1, 42-1,32-1,22-1,20-1,15-1,8-1
    5-1,and several versions of 4-1.
    I have a list but it's pointless to type in the games.
    The prices at this place in more expensive, as their quoted
    prices are without the adapter. from $170-$35 
    $10 for the adapter.
    
    
    richard

    Two days ago, U.S. Customs officials arrested two people, here in
    Wilmington (NC), for selling the 42-in-1 cartridges.  A Nintendo
    spokesperson said this was the first case that they have caught someone
    selling the illegal cartridges.  The customs official said it was
    "easy" to tell bootleg cartriges from legal ones.  He said that
    Nintendo "does not put more than one game on a cartridge" (guess
    SMB/Duck Hunt is the exception) and that if the game needs an adapter,
    it's bootleg.  He mentioned in particular the 42-in-1 cartridge.  He
    also mentioned that Nintendo sells one game for $20-$30 (guess he
    doesn't buy many games!) and that the illegal cartridges sell many
    games for $120-$200.
    
    Since there was a question as to the authenticity of these cartridges,
    I'd thought I'd pass this along...
    
    Monte

    I read in the Video Rental trades that Nintendo was going to crack down
    on these. The multiple game cartridges are not authorized by them so
    are bootlegs. Anything with an adapter is probably illegal in North
    America. We had a video retailer renting SMB3 with an adapter last
    fall. The game had Japanese writing in it.
    
    I would be real carefull with these games.
    
    Mike 

    Someone told me about a casette that is supposed to contain 52 games.
    Has anyone ever seen this? does it work?  is it worth it?
    
    Don't get on your high horses about piracy and etc, I just want
    to know.
    
    Jean
    

    .20 was moved from a basenote - lest anyone think the author was
    confused.
    
    Jack
    NINTENDO co-moderator
    

    
    I called the number given for info on the 52-in-1 cartridge and
    was informed that they are not selling these any more. And won't
    be in the future either due to legal problems.
    
    Those of you that got them.....congrats. Wish I could have gotten
    one. (Sigh)Oh..well.
    

    One of the guys in our office bought one of the 52 in 1 cartriges,
    aside from the fact that some of the games are in Japanese and that
    you don't have instructions for any of them, it seems like a good
    buy for a game addict, I'm not, so I tought all of them stunk (except
    for pinball).
    
    There is one problem tough, When I first inserted the cartrige in
    the slot, it worked fine, then when I tried to select another game,
    the thing would flash the power light all the time.  To get rid
    of these problems, I was told to "blow" into (onto) the contacts
    of the game adapter, whenever I did this, it would start working
    again.  This just doesn't make sense, but it works, has anyone seen
    or used this "trick" before?  does anyone have a sensible explanation
    for that?
    
    Jean
    

    	Explain it I can't.  But I CAN tell you that it also works with
    marginal cartridges.  Some of you may have ones that work some of the
    times.  Well, for some reason, if you blow along the connectors it
    seems to help.  It may be that the humidity helps seal a connection. 
    Anyway, it's possible that the adapter simply needs to be cleaned or
    adjusted.
    
    							Ned

    	The reason that I've always heard for this is to blow away
    	dust buildup.  We've never had a problem with our own games,
    	but HAVE had a problem with rentals.  CLEANING them is what
    	really fixed it....
    

    the reason the 52-1 type games flash is not dirt...it's the adapter
    
    the adapter has  circuitry built to defeat nintendo's
    protection against non-nintendo cartridge designs.
    sometime's it works sometimes it doesn't. :)
    
    try holding the reset for a a second
    or 2 longer than normal. usually the game menu will appear after the
    2nd flash.
    if not try again..hold the reset for a while.
    
    

    FYI - 
    
    the moderators of the notefile have agreed that since the distributors
    of the 52-in-1 cartridge are being prosecuted by NINTENDO, that no ads
    for this (or other "bootleg" or software of questionable origin)
    can be placed in the NINTENDO notefile. This may be an inconvenience,
    but addresses the issues of responsibility on both the parts of your
    moderators and Digital, with regard to third-party products.
    

    This method of game distribution should be reconsidered by Nintendo as
    a valid form.
    
    Many off-the-shelf games are going into the $15 to $9  range as their
    age grows and interest slows.
    
    But what about 3 or four or more on one cart, and selling for the
    current $40, $50, $60.
    
    This could revitalize older games and still generate sales from
    authentic carts.
    
    Any ideas on if this might happen? Anyone have an in to Nintendo
    marketing?
    
    Randy