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| 863.1 | Slightly off the topic... | SOLVIT::FLMNGO::WHITCOMB |  | Wed Jun 15 1994 16:16 | 21 | 
|  | Joy:
I don't have an answer to your question, but since I noticed you bought the
Butter Busters cookbook too, I have question that maybe you can answer.
I just bought Butter Busters about 1 1/2 weeks ago and noticed that many of
the recipes call for "liquid Butter Buds".  Someone else that I asked thought
that Butter Buds also came in packets that you mix with water to make a liquid
butter substitute.  Have you been able to find this product?  I noticed you
also worked in MKO, so I thought you might shop locally.  I've checked both
Market Basket and Shaw's, and all they have is the Butter Buds granules in
the shaker bottle.
I'm anxious to start experimenting with some of the recipes, and this is the
only thing that's holding me back.  If all else fails, I'll call the 800 number
in the book and see if I can get them through mailorder.
Thanks!
Meredith
  
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| 863.2 |  | CNTROL::JENNISON | Do you hear the people sing ? | Wed Jun 15 1994 16:39 | 32 | 
|  | 
	Joy,
	The easiest estimate for Target Heart rate is 
	220 - AGE = MHR (Maximum Heart Rate)
	Target Heart rate should be between 60 and 85 % of MHR, so
	
	(220 - AGE) * .60 and (220 - AGE) * .85
	Since you are 30, your Target Heart Rate Range would be
	114 - 161
	If you are just starting to exercise, I would recommend keeping
	your heart rate around 120-130 for the first month or so.  After
	that, you may want to increase to 130 - 140.
	As for why ...
	Studies have found that to acheive a "training effect", you must
	raise your heart rate to the target heart rate zone for a minimum
	of 20 minutes 3 times per week.  A training effect is basically
	an improvement in your cardio-respiratory fitness.
	Also, for weightloss, the same guidelines apply - aerobic exercise
	3 times/week, 20 minutes, THR zone ...
	(those are minimums...)
	Karen
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| 863.3 | Congrats on the healthy eating decision! | RUSAVD::HEALEY | M&ES, MRO4, 297-2426 | Wed Jun 15 1994 18:07 | 48 | 
|  | 
	Joy,
	You might also find your answers in ELESYS::AEROBICS.
	Oh, and congrats on the decision for healthy eating for
	the entire family.  I had a baby 6 months ago and gained 32 
	pounds.  After the baby, I had 10 to lose but had a hard
	time because of my lack of willpower.  I joined Diet Workshop
	and lost the 10 pounds, plus another 5!  My husband lost 10
	pounds too, just from the change in my cooking.  FYI, Diet
	Workshop is very similar to Weight Watchers.  Both teach 
	you how to change your eating habits to a low fat, high
	carbohydrate diet.  Nutrisystem and others that have you
	buy their food do not teach you how to eat (and they cost
	a bundle).  
	I think it is important to teach children young good eating
	habits.  Keeping junk food and other high sugar/fat foods
	around is just going to tempt everyone.  For me, it is best
	not to have junk food in the house because I will eat it.
	We never eat dessert and I will not be making dessert a part
	of the meal when Lauren is older.  She will get sugary treats
	on ocassion but not on a daily basis.  
	Children do need more fat in their diets than adults but
	the fat should come from healty sources (like whole milk, 
	and cheese), not from sweets.  They should get Juicy Juice, 
	not those sugary fruit punches and sodas.  And Cheerios instead 
	of Cocoa Puffs.  If they learn to like these things at a young
	age, they will probably continue to like them.  I know of
	one child who thinks green beans (from a can) are the best
	snack!  
	I have a friend who is trying to lose quite a bit of weight
	but she keeps icecream in the refrigerator and other treats
	around for the children and her thin husband.  I feel that
	she should not have this stuff around since she keeps eating
	it!  Her husband can get his sugar fixes elsewhere (like at
	lunch at work) and the kids don't need these daily treats! 
	As you can tell, I have a very stong opinion on this.  My daycare
	provider wanted to give Lauren teething biscuits and I kept
	saying no because of the sugar.  Finally, she found some called
	Zwiebacks (sp?) that list sugar after salt (and they are low sodium)
	that I agreed to.  And Lauren likes them!  
	Karen
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| 863.4 | Keep up the good work! | TPSYS::HILBERT |  | Thu Jun 16 1994 14:57 | 14 | 
|  |     Hi Joy,
    
    Congrats on the change in your diet routine.  I have been successfully
    losing weight weight watchers and I definately feel much better than I
    did 3 months ago.  I have tried also to make liquid butter buds so to
    speak.  I just bought the bottle of butter buds and took the cap off
    and pretty much tried to guess how much to put in.  I do believe that
    they make the butter buds in the packets, but I haven't been able to
    find them.  I can check with my WW leader.  She seems to be able to
    find everything.  Keep up the good work!  It's not always easy, but you
    are definately moving in the right direction!
    
    Dawn
    
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| 863.5 | Shaws in Clinton | CNTROL::GEARY |  | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:33 | 4 | 
|  |     I have bought the Butter Buds packets at the Shaws in Clinton in the 
    past.  
    
    lori
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| 863.6 | Re: 1 | SOLVIT::FLMNGO::WHITCOMB |  | Thu Jun 16 1994 17:42 | 6 | 
|  | Joy was kind enough to get back to me offline to let me know that the Butter
Buds packets are not located in the spice aisle with the Butter Buds granules
in the shaker bottle.  In NH, she's seen them at Shaw's on a shelf in the
frozen food dept.  My problem was that I checked for them in the spice aisle
and never thought they'd be anywhere else.  I guess it's best to ask the
store manager as they're probably not where you think they should be!
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| 863.7 | With "diet" items | MKOTS3::BRADISH | Joy Bradish @MKO | Thu Jun 16 1994 19:20 | 5 | 
|  |     Try to find them with the "diet" items.  I did notice some of the
    Weight Watchers products near them -- such as Weight Watchers non-fat
    cooking spray.
    
    Joy
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