Conference rocks::weight_control

.0>    Today is my fourth day of the diet, and I've lost 10 pounds already! 
.0>    I don't care if it IS all water -- 10 pounds is ten pounds
    
    	The problem is, losing all that water will interfer with the
    metabolization of fat.  Plus, once the diuretic effect has worn
    off, you will regain the water.

    -mike z

    Looks like a lot of you are reading this note and not replying here!
    
    I've received a LOT of requests for the diet, and I'm getting to
    them as I can.  If you do not have ALL-IN-1, please let me know
    your mailing address, as I am sending hard copies till someone can
    tell me how to get the diet from ALL-IN-1 to VAXmail.
    
    Re: -1
    
    Mike, I've been on the Rotation Diet for five days now, and total
    weight loss is 15 pounds.  Total loss on the 4-Day Wonder Diet was
    12 pounds.  I've fluctuated since Saturday (15-14-14-15-15), but I 
    don't think this is ALL water weight loss.  I've been exercising
    15 minutes each day (stationary bike), with my goal of 30 minutes
    a day by the end of the second week of the Rotation Diet, and 45
    minutes a day goal by the end of the third week.  _AND_ no "cheating!"
    
    
                                

    ALL-IN-1 to VAXmail
    
    there are two ways.
    
    1.  Simply Create.  The syntax is User @Node @Vaxmail, ie. 
    GKE @TRUCKS @VAXMAIL.
    
    2.  There is also a VAXmail option under the DP (DECpage) option
    if it is installed on your ALL-IN-1.  You can simple do a document
    transfer down from ALL-IN-1 to VMS and then at the mail prompt under
    DP type             SEND file.txt, ie  SEND DIET.TXT
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    P.S. No. 1 is the most correct and easy way to accomplish this.
    
    Gailann

.2>    Mike, I've been on the Rotation Diet for five days now, and total
.2>    weight loss is 15 pounds.  Total loss on the 4-Day Wonder Diet was
.2>    12 pounds.  I've fluctuated since Saturday (15-14-14-15-15), but I 
.2>    don't think this is ALL water weight loss.
    
    	In 5 days, the most fat you could lose is in the range of 2
    to 3.5 lbs.  The rest is water and waste and will reappear when
    you go off the diet.
    
.2>                                                I've been exercising
.2>    15 minutes each day (stationary bike), with my goal of 30 minutes
.2>    a day by the end of the second week of the Rotation Diet, and 45
.2>    minutes a day goal by the end of the third week.  _AND_ no "cheating!"

    	You are not burning anywhere near 3,500 calories per day. Don't
    fool yourself.  Unless, of course, you're running a marathon every
    day.
    
    -mike z

    re: Cat
    
    	You're doing real well, congratulations! The Rotation Diet is
    	a balanced diet, and one on which you can stay for a long time
    	without harming yourself.
    
    re: Mike
    
    	Just a thought: Mike, would you re-read your recent notes and
    	try to see how very negative most of them sound? Do you think
    	that people trying to lose weight write in this file just to
    	be told off? Though your expertise is very valid, and as such
        contains very valuable inputs to all of us, a word of
    	encouragement once in a while is not bad either!
    
    re: General
    
    	There is a fairly recent trend in this file (which I have been
    	following for more than a year) to put down anybody who is not
    	on Weight Watchers, and to consider WW as a universal remedy.
    	I am very glad it has worked for many of you, but don't forget
    	that for many other people it has not been the answer. We shouldn't
    	convert this file to publicity for WW. There are many other
    	valid ways to lose weight, and not all are "fad" diets.
    
    Regards,    Joana                               

.5>    	Just a thought: Mike, would you re-read your recent notes and
.5>    	try to see how very negative most of them sound? Do you think
.5>    	that people trying to lose weight write in this file just to
.5>    	be told off?
    
    	I'm not trying to tell anyone off.  I'm trying to warn them
    of the potential hazards and to give them a realistic outlook. If
    someone wants to kid him/herself and think that a diet that causes
    a loss of water and lean body weight is good, I won't stop it.
    
    	But, when it's presented in a public forum, like notes, I feel
    readers deserved to be warned.   I only want to inform.
    
.5>                   Though your expertise is very valid, and as such
.5>     contains very valuable inputs to all of us, a word of
.5>    	encouragement once in a while is not bad either!

    	I do encourage, privately, in MAIL.
    
    -mike z

>    re: General
>    
>    	There is a fairly recent trend in this file (which I have been
>    	following for more than a year) to put down anybody who is not
>    	on Weight Watchers, and to consider WW as a universal remedy.
>    	I am very glad it has worked for many of you, but don't forget
>    	that for many other people it has not been the answer. We shouldn't
>    	convert this file to publicity for WW. There are many other
>    	valid ways to lose weight, and not all are "fad" diets.

    Hooray!  I'm so glad to see a note mentioning that there are other
    weightloss programs that DO WORK other than WW.  I have very
    successfully lost 34 pounds on another plan and have kept it off!
    Our 14-year old son has lost 25 pounds on this same plan and it
    isn't a fad and it does encourage good nutrition and a balanced
    eating plan, etc. and is doctor approved.  I tend not to want to
    enter anything in this note because I do not go to WW.  Don't get
    me wrong, I am not knocking WW.  It is very good and does work for
    many, many people...so please...no poison keyboard mail.
    
    Smiles {8>)
    
    Lin 
        

    I do not think anyone in this notes file is trying to put anyone
    down (nor have I ever read a note to even hint at that) for not
    using weight watchers.  I think what people are saying is to have
    a healthy program (such as Weight Watchers, not necessarily Weight
    Watchers) and not a crash diet.  Another reason you might read so
    many pro notes about Weight Watchers is that it is sucessful and
    long term.  I have read all these crash diet's and the quick weight
    losses for three to four weeks, these same people never bother to
    inform you when they could no longer tolerate the diet or gained
    all the weight back.  There are many good diet's out, not just Weight
    Watchers, all people that have lost great amounts of weight are
    suggesting is that the diet be healthy.

    From someone who just completed the 4-day wonder diet, I thought
    I'd add my $.02 worth. (I lost 6 lbs. on this diet and feel *great*..
    thanks, Cat!)
    
    We should realize that losing weight is a *personal* matter, and
    find out what works best for us (individually) and *STICK WITH IT*.
    
    I realize that this diet is very low in calories and the weight
    comes off fast, but that's incentive enough to get me started.
    I'm planning on going back on the wonder diet again next month.
    In the meantime, I'm going to be on an 'un-diet'...eating in moderation
    while eliminating the junk (sugars, etc.).  I know what I can and
    cannot eat and have to change my eating habits.  That's the only
    way I'll lose weight. (along with moderate exercise...that I need 
    to work on!)  (8-)
    
    Anyway, just thought I'd share my thoughts.  No matter how quickly
    we can lose weight on *any* particular diet, the bottom line is
    KEEPING THE WEIGHT OFF.
    
    Thank goodness for this notes file where we can encourage each other!
    
    PG

    re:.9
    I hope I can put this in a way that does not sound like doubting
    Thomas or a wise guy, because that is not my intent.  Please let
    us know in a month if you were able to keep the six pounds of. 
    I for one certainly hope you can, if you do than four day's every
    few weeks sounds good to me.  We all get bored with our programs
    and would like to try something else every now and then.