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| 22.1 | | SAC::PHILPOTT_I | Col I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' Philpott | Mon Nov 27 1989 09:26 | 14 |
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1: TA refers only to Army units.
2: Theoretically there is a civilian role, but more usually regular troops would
be used (eg during the current ambulance strike, several years ago in a
firemen's strike, and the last time I believe they were used to quell civil
disobedience was in 1911 or thereabouts when the police went on strike, the army
came out to keep order and a battleship trained its guns on central Liverpool!)
4: yes- its called the Coast Guard :-) however life saving is the normal
province of the Royal National Lifeboat Institute. Naval and RAF aircraft and
helicopters are also used.
/. Ian .\
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| 22.2 | Thats life Jim, but not as we know it. | PEKING::BECKC | | Tue Dec 12 1989 10:55 | 24 |
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Mark,
The answers to most of your questions.
1) The T.A. is the Army only.
2) Basically the T.A. is the same as the Regular Army. We do exactly
the same as the Army except on a part time basis.
3) Unsure about the Navy, but we do have a reserve force for the
RAF.
4) Sorry, don't know the answer to that one. Maybe someone else
could answer that one for you.
5) The T.A. operate every Thursday and we attend every other weekend.
We also have a 2 week annual camp.
Hope this helps you out.
Regards
Dustie
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| 22.3 | 148 drills/yr by our terms | MPGS::MCCLURE | Why Me??? | Tue Dec 12 1989 18:52 | 10 |
| I have read several articles in US Army journals, about the
exchanges between Army National Guard and Territorial Army
units for their, respective, ATs. Too bad we don't have a
contributor whose been on one of these. I'd be interested in
hearing about the things that don't make it in official journals.
re .2
Sounds to me like the TA participation requirements are a lot
higher than USAR.
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| 22.4 | My Turn for Questions??? | PEKING::BECKC | | Wed Dec 13 1989 11:27 | 20 |
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Just a few questions about the overseas reserve forces.
1. How often do they operate?
2. What kind of reseve forces are there, and what do they do.
3. Do you have to be regular before you become reserve or can you
join from civvie street.
4. How do the regulars treat you, do they hate you or like you.
OK that will do for know.
Awaiting the answers with baited breath.
Dustie
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| 22.5 | | MPGS::MCCLURE | Why Me??? | Wed Dec 13 1989 17:06 | 28 |
| Dustie,
I think the answers to 1, 2 & 3 are posted elsewhere in this file.
The US has Reserves in every service and National Guard in Army &
Air Force.
As for #4, it varies. Regulars that have never worked with reserve
forces, tend to have the "f'in reservist" attitude. Part of this
can be attributed to the fact that military indoctrination tries
to instill self-pride into the recruits and make them believe that
they are the best in the world. Therefore, they look down at members
of other services, branches and non-regulars. Most of them grow up
after a while. When I get upset is when a senior NCO or Officer shows
that attitude. They should know better. The Reserve/NG forces in the
US are so large, that there are bound to be units with members/leaders
that don't really know what they're doing and don't care.
Unfortunately, the rest of us suffer because of them. Units that don't
enforce proper appearance standards cause all of us grief. First
imperssions are as important in uniform, as they are in a job
interview. The difference is that in the military it usually results
in a directive being sent out to ALL units to clean up their act.
Attitudes are changing now. Almost all the combat divisions stationed
in CONUS, now have AR/NG units as part of their mobilization strength.
More and more regulars are learning that the reserve forces are their
only hope if "the balloon goes up".
Bob Mc
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| 22.6 | SENIOR SERVICE STRIKES BACK | WOTVAX::LAWSON | Edward LAWSON @OLO | Fri Jan 05 1990 14:57 | 37 |
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In the UK, the three services all have reserves. TA refers only to
the Army.
The Royal Naval Reserve is an organisation in itself which forms
the 10th Mine Countermeasures Squadron. We have 10 fleet
minesweepers distributed at various sea training centres around the
coast. These ships are fully manned by RNR officers and ratings
(from junior stokers to the C.O.) and no regulars are normally
carried.
At my Sea Training Centre, we have three full crews for our ship
and she is at sea three weekends out of four with the fourth
weekend used for alongside maintenance.
We have two 'drill nights' per week (shore training sessions) and
we need to attend about 40 of these per year and spend at least
three weekends at sea. We also have to complete one two week
continuous training period per year either at sea or on a Royal
Navy training course. A fortnight's continuous training at sea
generally works out at 17 days away as we sail on the Friday
evening after work and return on a Sunday...pretty tiring when you
have to go back to work on the Monday.
We form a major part of the RN's Mine Countermeasures effort and
specialise in the technique if Deep Team Sweeping.
We ain't looking for magnetic mines nowardays because our new ships
have steel hulls!!!!! the RN's new minesweepers are fibreglass.
Sorry for the essay, I only meant to write a couple of lines but
got carried away.
Ed
RNR
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| 22.7 | | PEKING::NASHD | Whatever happened to Capt. Beaky? | Fri Jan 05 1990 15:40 | 5 |
| Ed,
What do you mean by Deep Team Sweeping?
Dave
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| 22.8 | Mines - weapons that wait | DOCSRV::STARIN | My other ham shack is a Gooneybird | Fri Jan 05 1990 17:21 | 16 |
| Re .6:
Sounds interesting, Ed. Also sounds like the RNR has adopted some
of the practices (or maybe vice-versa) of the US Navy's NRF (Naval
Reserve Fleet) except you guys make it an all-reserve effort (NRF
ships typically have a mixed crew of USN, USNR on active duty, and
drilling USNR).
What is the name for the mine specialist rating in the RNR? In the
USN and USNR, they are known as MN's (Minemen).
I'm not really familiar with minesweeping other than it is a very
exacting task - navigation has to be right on.
Mark
RMC USNR
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| 22.9 | RNR answers | WOTVAX::LAWSON | Edward LAWSON @OLO | Mon Jan 08 1990 17:01 | 37 |
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Dave,
Deep Team Sweeping is a technique used by the RNR to sweep moored
mines. Two sweepers are used. They approach to a ridiculously close
distance (well it frightens me!) of about 20 yards and pass a cable
between them. Then the two ships open out and pay out the sweepwire
with explosive cutters attached until they are as far apart as the
required swept channel width...there could be a mile of cable paid
out by then..the cable has other fancy bits and pieces attached to
make it follow the bottom. When the mooring wire of a mine is
snagged by the cable, it gets pulled into the nearest explosive
cutter, severed and the mine floats free. The really hi-tech bit
follows...we then shoot at the mine until it blows up!
Mark,
The mine specialist ratings are part of the seaman branch. Their
rates are therefore the same ,i.e.
SEAMAN
ABLE SEAMAN
LEADING SEAMAN
PETTY OFFICER
CHIEF PETTY OFFICER.
They wear a mine warfare branch badge on their sleeve to
distinguish them.
They have the designation (M.W) after their rate in official
documents...M.W.= Mine Warfare.
E.G PO (MW).
Ed
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