| Title: | Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference |
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| Moderator: | MIASYS::HETRICK |
| Created: | Sun Feb 25 1990 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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I'm entering this note on the behalf of a noter who wishes to remain anonymous at this time. Terza -moderator- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I'm hoping some of you out there can help me out, give advice or relate some of your own experiences. SITUATION: My husband of 2 years has twin 16 1/2 yr. old boys from a prior marriage. One of them wants to live with us. He has been living with us for a month now and has decided that he wants to stay permanently. We have been paying her $950 per month and $240 a month for private school education. Our taxes are killing us and we are just getting by. We know that we have to go for custody and I have been calling lawyers all morning. I can't believe what they are asking for retainer fees....we just don't have the money. The last one asked for $1,500 upfront, then we have to pay him hourly. Right! I told him forget it, we couldn't afford him. I do have some calls in to other lawyers but am afraid I'll get the same story. Also, a few of the lawyers I called didn't want to take the case. I don't know why because it seems like a pretty much open/shut case. In fact the lawyer that wanted $1500 told me that it should be a piece of cake....that the support would be cut, but not all the way because he makes more money than she does. I'm feeling bummed out because our grocery bills have skyrocketed and the kid needs clothes, etc. Meanwhile, we're paying her and she's not covering any of his expenses.....she refused to help pay for his driver's ed, yet she paid for the child that is living with her. It's her nasty way of punishing the poor kid that moved in with us. We need to do something and fast. We've told the boy that we will go for custody but he must be prepared to listen to the B.S. and guilt trips that she will be dishing out. I guess she already is doing that....he told us last night that she said that he was trying to drive her crazy and send her to the mental institution. I think she needed to go long ago. Got any advice? This is getting long....I have many more tales of terror but won't get into that. Bottom line is, Can we represent ourselves???? Thanks very much for the ear and thank you Terza::Zane for posting this. Peace
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| 222.1 | I may be able to help. | CSC32::HADDOCK | I'm afraid I'm paranoid | Tue Jul 21 1992 13:17 | 8 |
If you live in Colorado, and will contact me either here or offline,
I can probably give you copies of all the laws and filing that I
did.
fred();
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| 222.2 | From Colorado | CSC32::HADDOCK | I'm afraid I'm paranoid | Tue Jul 21 1992 14:54 | 67 |
In note 62 you can find some of the things I documented in getting
custody of my children, including the Change of Custody Order with
the judges comments on the laws referenced. Note 69 has some
discussion on being your own lawyer.
1) Be especially wary of lawyers that will tell you that this will
be "a piece of cake".
2) Go to the local library (public or college). Their reference
section should have a copy of the state law books (in Colorado
known as C.R.S. or Colorado Revised Statutes). Ask the librarian
for help if needed in locating information in the books. There will
be specific sections on "family law" ( in Colorado, title 14 ), and
specific laws on "child custody" and "change of custody". Read
them, study them and the notations of case examples that were
argued in front of the State Supreme Court ( usually listed in
the law books along with the laws). Also check on laws and times
allowed for "service" (of papers on the other party) and "response"
(time allowed for the other party to respond to your request).
3) In Colorado, there is no age stated where a child can choose
which parent they want to live with, but the Judge will usually
take the child's wishes into account. One of the specifics the
law states is "that the child has been living with the ncp 'with
the consent of the cp' for six months or more". Be aware. The Cp
still legally has custody. The first time I went for custody, the
first thing she did was show up with 3 police cars, 6 police, and
the custody papers and grabbed my son back. Many states do, however,
have specific laws that state that after a certain age, the child
can choose which parent they wish to live with.
4) I used some of my old court papers as forms to go by to create
my own filings. The Clerk of the court cannot advise you on the
law or court strategy, but they can (although they'll pressure
you to get a lawyer) tell you what papers need to be filed, when
and how. You may be able to find a lawyer that will sell you
a couple hours worth of advice and direction and go over your
papers for you to make sure they are in the correct form and order.
4) In Colorado you have to:
a) File a 14 day notice that you are going to file for change
of custody.
b) File a specific request for change after the 14 day time period
stating specific facts and references to laws that will justify
the change.
c) With the request, file an affidavit ( notarized statement ) of
the party stating in his/her own terms what has been happening
and why you are making this request for change of custody.
d) Serve the papers on the other party. In most cases this can
be done by mailing copies of all your court filings to the
other party (to their attorney if they have one), and filing
a notarized statement to the court that you mailed these papers
to other-party at such-and-so address on such-and-so date.
In some instances, however, "personal" service must be made
by a third party (process server). Most Sheriffs departments
in the county of the person to be served have a section that
will do this for you for a nominal fee.
e) The other party then has a specific amount of time ( In CO about
two weeks after filing the specific request ) to file a reply.
If they don't file the reply, you are about home free, if they
do file a reply, then the court will likely set a hearing date.
Hope this will help to get you started.
fred();
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