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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:	Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:	Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:	QUARK::LIONEL

Created:	Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	867
Total number of notes:	32923

760.0. "rat holing" by VMSSPT::NICHOLS (conferences are like apple barrels) Mon Feb 17 1992 16:29

    I propose that this conference institute a rat-hole committee.
    It would be the responsibility of this committee to oversee discussions
    with a view toward pulling them up short when they start getting
    rat-holed.
    
    I propose a committee of three to have this responsibility
    My three nominees are Mark Levesque, Paul Beck, Bonnie Reinke
    
    The committee would not finger point but simply indicate that a
    particular discussion has overreached its useful life.
    This committee might optionally initiate new topics when in their
    opinion the rat-holing was because the turn in direction of the
    discussion introduced a new subject with its own merit.
    
    
    				herb

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
760.1		STARCH::WHALEN	Vague clouds of electrons tunneling through computer circuits an	`Mon Feb 17 1992 21:07`	10
	re .0 But it's the digital way to explore ratholes to their complete extent. (Some people refer to them as mink holes because the cost of doing so justifies something more "valuable" than a rat.) As for the proposed gang of three, though I have nothing against them, I think that the moderators are responsible for the conference and it is up to the decision of the current moderators if they want more. Rich
760.2	... and if served I will not elect ...	STAR::BECK	Paul Beck	`Mon Feb 17 1992 21:13`	3
	I can't say I understand why my name appeared in the list, but it's moot, as I wouldn't have the time, and only follow this conference sporadically anyway.
760.3	duh?	MILKWY::ZARLENGA	Man, I musta REALLLLY been drunk!	`Mon Feb 17 1992 21:34`	3
	Ok, so now there's a rat hole note. But why would adults need guidance to use it properly?
760.4		QUARK::LIONEL	Free advice is worth every cent	`Tue Feb 18 1992 09:40`	3
	Sorry, Herb, this is the moderators' job. Steve
760.5		VMSSG::NICHOLS	conferences are like apple barrels	`Tue Feb 18 1992 09:51`	2
	ok Perhaps you should delete this discussion?
760.6	No Way	GLDOA::KATZ	Follow your conscience	`Tue Feb 18 1992 10:38`	3
	The last thing I want to see is someone telling me when a topic is going down a rat hole. I'll decide for myself.
760.7		IAMOK::MITCHELL	despite dirty deals despicable	`Wed Feb 19 1992 20:21`	9
	Sometimes a rathole is just what is needed when the topic gets heated and uncomfortable. It takes the pressure off for a bit, and allows people to calm down. (most of the time) :-) kits
760.8		HANNAH::MODICA	Journeyman Noter	`Fri Feb 21 1992 10:47`	18
	I'm going to use this as the rathole topic. Herb, by all means feel free to write lock this too. Re: 736.124 736.125 I agree with you both but I don't really think it's worth it to attempt to rebutt the stated beliefs of said noter. Besides, there's always the catch-22 to it that states that denial is the first sign of a problem. Well, I won't play that game. I see no need to defend myself against unfounded and certainly unwarranted accusations. In fact, I feel that the accusations leveled say more about the person who stated them than those for whom the accusations were directed.
760.9		QUARK::LIONEL	Free advice is worth every cent	`Fri Feb 21 1992 12:05`	3
	I write-locked this note (shoulda done it days ago...) Steve