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| 196.1 | Perhaps, for some, its really NOT a  problem?? | BETA::EARLY | Bob_the_Hiker | Tue Dec 08 1987 12:38 | 34 | 
|  |     re: .0
    
    Some consider that some men have TWO illnesses.
    
    The first is impotency. A fact of life that occurs in people. The
    inability to get aroused.
    
    The second, is "Don't care". I believe  (based on some group
    discussions with singles, aquaintences, and 'others') that some
    men "look forward" and enjoy a feeling of impotency. 
    
    It is remotely possible that some men feel as "trapped" by the sex game
    as some women feel used by it.
    
    When these men (people ?) get hit with 'impotency', and the allegedly
    'natural instinct' no longer rears its ugly head, the 'victim' is
    likewise freed from 'pursuing' and can settle down to a normal
    existence of calmness and tranquility not otherwise possible. In
    short, if they are unmarried, there is no reason to do so; if they
    are single; it doesn't matter. If they are married to an otherwise
    celibate person; they both can rejoice.
    
    It seems only to be a tragedy if they impotency occurs, and the
    victim would choose otherwise (then as with any other dysfunctionality,
    it is up to the 'victim' to seek help (treatment)).
    
    Of course, I have no medical knowledge on this problem, just my
    opinion.
    
    Bob
    
    
    
    
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| 196.2 | Ugly? Really! | FLOWER::JASNIEWSKI |  | Fri Dec 11 1987 10:45 | 15 | 
|  |     
    	I agree with Bob, perhaps he's simply "relieved" for the first
    time since he was "13" years old....
    
    	But Bob, why quote "natural instinct" as if it's some sorta
    label and not true, also, why do you consider this natural part
    of a man "ugly" as in "rears it's ugly head"?
    
    	We men are the ones who make it ugly; as a given, it's as beautiful
    as can be!
    
    	To .0, sorry to hear that the man you loved chose to revel in
    his relief and not "get himself fixed up" or whatever.
    
    	Joe Jas
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| 196.3 | Answering Questions - Doctors? | PBA::GIRARD |  | Fri Dec 11 1987 13:53 | 10 | 
|  |     Dear Joyce,
    
        what is the cause of the impotency?
    
        You don't need a doctor for that!
    
        remember that it is only an illness to another person!
    
        and that doctors treat symptoms not causes!!!
    
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| 196.5 |  | ASIC::EDECK |  | Fri Dec 11 1987 16:31 | 14 | 
|  |     
    There are medical reasons for impotence. Diabetes causes a 
    numbing of the sensory nerves (knew a guy who had diabetes
    and walked across a hot topped driveway without feeling it)
    as well as a restriction of blood flow to (all) the extremities.
    Between the two...
    Chronic alcoholism will also affect potency, as will some injuries 
    to the back. (And para- or quadraplegics are not necessilary im-
    potent)
    
    I'm told not much can be done for treatment, although a penile implant
    is possible.
    
    (gotta go--system crashing)
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| 196.6 | Encouraging discussion | QUARK::LIONEL | We all live in a yellow subroutine | Fri Jan 08 1988 13:46 | 14 | 
|  |     Recognizing that this is a sensitive subject for many men, let me
    remind our readers that it is possible to contribute anonymously.
    Simply send the text to one of the moderators and ask him to post
    the reply for you.
    
    Impotence has been too long regarded as a topic for derision and
    a joke.  It's no joke to the men who suffer from it.  Whether the
    cause be biologic or psychologic, the problem is real and the
    effects can be devastating.
    
    I would encourage discussion on this topic, and perhaps increase
    everyone's understanding of the causes and effects of impotence.
    
    					Steve
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| 196.8 | Just passing through... | CSCMA::BALDWIN |  | Tue Jul 17 1990 17:54 | 4 | 
|  |     I know it's been awhile, but I was just wondering if the moderators
    would consider changing the title of this topic to:"Impotency...the
    unspoken illness" as there is no other topic on impotency in this
    file and it really is an issue for men to discuss. 
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| 196.9 |  | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Tue Jul 17 1990 21:50 | 2 | 
|  |     Done.
    	Steve
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| 196.10 | Anonymous reply | QUARK::HR_MODERATOR |  | Fri Jul 20 1990 15:28 | 40 | 
|  |     The following reply has been contributed by a member of our community
    who wishes to remain anonymous.
    
    
    
    I went to a urologist because I've been having a semi-problem...i.e.
    sometimes it works better than others.
    
    The doctor says there is a reasonably good possibility that the problem
    is organic, with my circulation problems and the hypertension medicine.
    He didn't see any real need to go thru extensive testing to try to
    confirm it, because surgically curing it would be virtually impossible
    under these circunstances.
    
    There are 3-4 ways to work around that. One is a simple implant, but it
    would be a permanent thing. When through using my penis for what it's
    supposed to be used for, I could bend it down, kind of out of the way,
    but it wouldn't  soften up. A variation is putting a small pump in the
    scrotum, and pump it  up when I want to use it for pleasure. But my
    insurance plan won't cover  that, because it supposedly isn't perfected
    yet. I'd have to cover the  difference in the two procedures, which
    would be about $6000. No way. And I  don't think I want a permanent
    erection, that I just bend to suit the moment.
    
    They have a pump that can be put over the penis, then you just pump it
    to pull pull a vacuum, making the penis erect, then put a rubber ring
    over the base  of the penis, which is supposed to keep it hard. That
    has a suggested time  limit of around 30 minutes, after which you
    should take it off. I believe there is a danger factor there. The pump
    is really the pits, though. I was shown one.
    
    Or, whenever your getting ready for some romance, you can give yourself
    a  little injection right at the base of the penis (I believe), and it
    is supposed  to be ready to go within about 5 minutes, and they set the
    dose to give you  about 1/2 hour. The best of all the deals, I
    personally believe. 
    
    That's what I've found. Based on the notion that the problem is below
    and not above the neck.
    
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