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| 5843.1 |  | BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::Mayne | A wretched hive of scum and villainy | Tue Mar 25 1997 23:17 | 7 | 
|  | You can't. If you have two segments, you need two subnets, or you need a bridge 
(in which case you aren't routing).
You could subnet your class C, but I'm told that Windows NT can only route 
between A, B, and C class networks, so that wouldn't work either.
PJDM
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| 5843.2 | Could I segment a class-c block | TAINO::JRIVERA |  | Wed Mar 26 1997 06:29 | 22 | 
|  |     Hi!
    
    	I'm a little confuse here you said -
    >>> You could subnet your class C,
    >>> but I'm told that Windows NT can only route 
    between A, B, and C class networks, so that wouldn't work either.
    
    	If Windows NT could route a class c subnet and We have an entire
    class-c block.
    
    	Question:
    
    	If I have a class-c block could I segment this block in 2 or 3
    subnet using the subnet-mask ?
    
    	And if so could I then put both cards in the same class-c block but
    with different subnetmask to indify the segment to wich the card
    belogns and route ip within both segments?
    
    
    Josepc
    
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| 5843.3 |  | SMURF::PBECK | Who put the bop in the hale-de-bop-de-bop? | Wed Mar 26 1997 07:14 | 6 | 
|  |     A class C network can be subnetted. But if (as .1 indicates he has
    heard) NT only supports routing between "full" networks and not
    between subnets within a Class (A, B, or C) network, then it
    wouldn't help your problem.
    
    
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| 5843.4 |  | TAINO::JRIVERA |  | Wed Mar 26 1997 07:27 | 31 | 
|  |     Could I then put them in the same class-c network but each card in
    different segments and everybody could then see everybody?
    
    If I put each card as a gateway to the router.
    
     Example:
    
    
    Workstation(A)       Server NT 4.0
      10BaseT
    (1.1.1.10)  -------- NIC(1) 
    Gateway(1.1.1.1)	(1.1.1.1)
    
                         NIC(2)     100BaseT    Workstation (B)
    			(1.1.1.2)---------------(1.1.1.11)Gway(1.1.1.3)
    				   \
    				    \             Router
    				     \------------(1.1.1.3)-----Internet
    
    Could everybody see the internet with this setup?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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| 5843.5 | Don't think so... | ALFSS1::HENRY | Bob Henry | Wed Mar 26 1997 08:33 | 17 | 
|  |     I probably shouldn't jump in since I'm not really a networking expert
    but I don't think this will work.  I don't know the whole story here
    but wouldn't it be easier to put in a 10/100 bridge/switch?  In order
    for this to work the way you've drawn it, I think you'll need to 
    allocate a block of ip
    addresses (with the appropriate subnet mask) on the 10baseT side and
    then route between the 2 segments/subnets.  
    
    NT will route between subsets of a
    subnet (if that makes any sense); this is how an isp sells blocks of ip
    addresses to small offices or home lans.  I've connected several of
    these for people using either dial-up networking with modems or isdn
    adapters back to the isp.  You have to do some trickery with the route
    table but it works.  Most NT networking books (Mark Minasi's comes to
    mind) or the 4.0 server resource kit will give you some examples. 
    
    Good luck,
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