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| 545.1 | Wrong file.... | SALEM::AMARTIN | My AHDEDAHZZ REmix, by uLtRaVeRsE | Thu Jul 21 1988 23:38 | 4 | 
|  |     No offense Jack, but I think that you should ask this in WOmannotes-v2.
    
    I'd do the kepad 7 stuff but am at the moment unable to remember
    how.          
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| 545.2 | Here is fine... | QUARK::LIONEL | May you live in interesting times | Fri Jul 22 1988 00:27 | 13 | 
|  |     I think it belongs here just fine.  Both men and women could use
    help adjusting to divorce - I know I certainly did.  I went to
    a counselor for six months, but I can also see some people needing
    other kind of help if they are not used to relying on themselves.
    
    It would not surprise me to hear of numerous support groups for
    women, but none for men.  Perhaps some of our readers can offer
    more direct knowledge.
    
    If you want to persue the WOMANNOTES conference, it is
    RAINBO::WOMANNOTES-V2.  You can press KP7 now to add it to your
    notebook.
    				Steve
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| 545.3 | Clarification on this end... | SALEM::AMARTIN | My AHDEDAHZZ REmix, by uLtRaVeRsE | Fri Jul 22 1988 00:34 | 6 | 
|  |     I agree with you steve, but if you look at the text you will see
    that this person is looking for help "primarily" for women.  I was
    not downing the text (although it apeared as such) i was mearly
    stating that if this person is looking for help (woman) then he
    would have no trouble finding it in womannotes.  Sorry if it looked
    bad.
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| 545.4 | You're Both right! | SALEM::JWILSON |  | Fri Jul 22 1988 08:16 | 12 | 
|  |     RE: .1 and .3 (A. Martin), Thanks for the advice.  I believe I will
    add a copy of this note to the Womannotes File.
    
    RE: .2 (Steve), And thank You!  I agree, it does belong here.  And
    yes, I am interested in the same services for men.  As you pointed
    out, I just see a greater need on behalf of women, who are typically
    not as well prepared as men to deal with (especially) many of the
    practical aspects of divorce.
    
    Thank you both, again.
    
    Jack
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| 545.5 | There's always the Y | TLE::RANDALL | I feel a novel coming on | Fri Jul 22 1988 09:33 | 4 | 
|  |     The Nashua YWCA offers a support group for divorced women that
    includes many of the topics you mentioned. 
    
    --bonnie
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| 545.6 | Life skills - shouldn't they be taught earlier? | 16BITS::AITEL | Every little breeze.... | Fri Jul 22 1988 11:27 | 17 | 
|  |     As do the community colleges.  I've seen innumerable courses
    on women reentering the workforce, as well as investing minicourses
    etc.  
    
    Self-sufficiency is something we fail to teach kids.  How many
    of us got info from our parents, as we were growing up, on how
    to "turn on" an apartment or house?  Things like how to get phones
    and utilities connected, what needs inspecting, even how to get
    the old occupant's mail discontinued!  And things like money and
    investing were left to the imagination!  As our society gets more
    and more complex, we leave kids more and more at the mercy of their
    own wits.  It's a good way to assure they don't forget lessons once
    learned, but it also assures they spend a lot of time and energy
    learning lessons they should have been taught at age 14.  (although
    it's another matter to teach a 14-year-old ANYthing!)
    
    --Louise
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| 545.7 | Churches? | CSC32::DELKER |  | Fri Jul 22 1988 20:27 | 7 | 
|  |     In Oklahoma and here in Colorado, churches periodically held
    divorce adjustment seminars.  They were generally advertised
    in the paper; I don't know the content, however.  I adjusted
    from mine quite easily, and haven't attended.  There is probably
    something similar in the east, as well.
    
    Paula
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| 545.8 | choices... | NEXUS::M_MACKEY | Music is the soul's own speech | Fri Jul 22 1988 22:27 | 47 | 
|  |     There are a couple of options, already mentioned, that I have heard
    of in Colorado and probably exist in other states as well....
    
    The Colorado Springs extension of the University of Colorado has
    a women's center where they assist women in exploring the possibilities
    of career, schooling, etc.  There also is a center in one of the
    hospitals where they conduct similar services....  They may have the same
    services offered for men, I don't know.   There is, also, an
    organization that deals specifically with "displaced homemakers/women"
    They offer basically the same services mentioned above.  Many of
    these organizations also provide information as to how financing
    can be obtained for schooling if that is applicable. 
                                                              
    Another service that is provided here, and probably elsewhere, is
    the Partnership Act - JTPA  (Junior Training Partnership Act) which
    offers qualified individuals, men and women alike, the opportunity
    to be placed in a position they are *good* at/experienced in.  They
    place you in an apprentice type position.  The individual is offered
    a gasoline allowance for getting to and from work and in certain
    circumstances, a clothing allowance if the need is apparent 
    (professionalism).  Qualifications are based on income.  It is in
    the phone book, here, under city government listings.
    
    Another agency, that is not frequently publicized, is affiliated
    with social services.  It's called Title 20.  This service provides
    for daycare expenses when the parent/parents can't afford to.
    Situations such as low-income or being a full-time student persuing
    a *marketable* degree (computers, business, etc.)  Again, this is based
    on income and need (# of children requiring daycare).  
    
    Between these and numerous other services provided it is possible
    to come out of an adverse situation without *drowning* completely.
    Sometimes it is necessary to *bow* to our pride and seek *public
    assistance* in order to allow our family to survive.  It may not
    be our first choice but it may be necessary for a while until better
    opportunities come along.
    
    I think part of the answer is, as you are doing, seeking information
    from other sources.  Call around in your area and find out what
    is available and what the qualifications are.  Ask them if they
    can refer you to other sources as well....   The JTPA probably can
    provide specific groups for men that I, as a woman, am not aware
    of.
    
    Know what your choices are and use them......
    
    Mary Beth                                 
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