Conference quark::human_relations-v1

    Even though I'm guilty of politics in this file, I would vote against
    it.  It seems the most meaningful discussions revolve around
    relationships which involve two people, and content becomes more
    vague as the number of people in the relationship increases.

    		On the other hand, if you wanted to talk politics
    (or other world affairs) on another conference..which is usually
    in SOAPBOX, SPACE, or something else, you have to deal with "experts"
    that dissect everything you say.  Thus, causing you to retreat in
    fear of saying anything at all, or flaming on endlessly eventually
    getting your tail in a fix!  Maybe we need an "amatuer"  World affairs
    conference for us regular folk who might wear an occasional python boot.
                                  
    						Phil
    

    Another vote against politics.
    	Steve

    
    I also feel strongly that to keep the intent of this conference
    (as I interpret and would like it to be) from getting to be another
    SOAPBOX or other conference heavy in "FLAMES" etc., I think politics
    is a topic better to have it's own conference.  Fortunately or
    unfortunately, I am not in a position to set that up, but maybe
    someone else who can, will.
    
    					Joe

        I refuse to vote on this issue, so I'll just state an opinion.
    
        I try to refrain from politics in the "REAL" world, be it gov't
    politics or business politics.  Guess I'm just not that controversial
    in nature.  It does in some ways, have a direct correlation with
    human relations but only on the level of one playing politics with
    a few others.  The major part of it, I feel, should find another
    home.

    	(Did I just vote no?)
    
    Still looking for the sun,

    Lee

    P.S.  I do vote in the regular elections and think everyone should
    be well enough informed and vote.

    For my money I do not feel that deep an interest.
    
    Politics can tend to be inflamatory because people
    have (on the whole) fairly set ideas - where they
    think about it at all.
    
    Mind you I do believe that basically the British are
    fairly unnvolved in the nitty gritty of politics and
    most people here vote the way they do because their
    parents voted that way and their parents before them.
    
    I do not intend this comment to include ALL of us
    but I feel it to be true in the main.
    
    

    Gee. Well, I'm going to go against the tide just a little bit (how
    like me ;-).
    
    I would say that putting political *information* in this file is
    fine (extracts from VTX or news services), but that discussion of
    the political/philosophical rightness or wrongness be left to other
    files, such as SOAPBOX. (Press KP7 to add SOAPBOX to your notebook.)
    
    I like knowing about political things that could affect interpersonal
    relationships, i.e., the Georgia sodomy bill or the Surgeon General's
    comments on sex education and AIDS. I don't want to see things then
    develop into an "I'm right and you're wrong" type of discussion.
    
    If people want to check with a moderator to make sure something
    they want to write here is appropriate, then I volunteer to screen
    things and to point people to the proper forum if debate begins
    to rage.      
    
    Tamzen

    I think Tamzen's viewpoint is the one I'd like to encourage. Arguing
    politics for its own sake belongs in SOAPBOX.  But where politics
    impacts human relations, it can be mentioned here.  Thanks, Tamzen,
    for volunteering to advise contributors.
    					Steve

    No, No 1000 times no.   At least not in this File.

    
    **Please**  NO.   I just gave up one file for those very reasons!!!
    
    later, gailann
           

    My political beliefs are the results of my moral beliefs, and can
    impact my relations with other people (mostly causing contention
    and adverse judgements).  How can you recommend that I conceal part
    of my self?
    			-John Bishop
    
    More practically, no way do I want this to become FORUM or SOAPBOX.
    As I've said before, the information content in this file is low
    enough already.

    I'm against Politics in this file, but I don't mind politics. For
    example, the discussion on "what would you die for" was well and good
    at first. It was really a human relations topic, even though it was
    really an issue of politics. However, it started getting into the
    draft, women and the draft, SDI, and treading quite close to baiting
    people of certian political beliefs. It is my humble opinion that that
    particular note has gone out of politics and into Politics. I even
    think that the moderators should set that note NO_WRITE to terminate
    discussion. I don't want to hear it any more. 
    
    The AIDS discussion is another that discusses both human relations and
    politics (to name just two). I'd hate to have to end that one. I think
    that the nature of this conference is such that we have to be a bit
    careful. There are a lot of discussions here that are rather
    content-free, but we're all trying to find our proper voices, and I'm
    willing to sacrifice a little light to keep the temperature
    comfortable. 

    	Jon

    	If something that looks vaguely political crops up in the context
    of human relations, then fine.  Politics and religion are both touchy
    subjects.  We seem to have been treading the line pretty well so
    far, lets not fall off the deep end.
    
    	Keep the "human" in Human Relations
    
    						--Doug

    Unless you are planning on asking your boss (or your bosses' boss)
    out for a date, and you want our opinion....
    
    I say
    
    Vote No on Issue 114 8-)

I'd vote to encourage political discussions not pertaining specifically to H_R 
be moved elsewhere.  I think, however, that the discussion way back on the 
Supreme Court decision on "certain practices" in Georgia is an example of a 
political topic which pertains specifically to H_R.

Steve

Besides, since when does politics have anything "HUMAN" about it ... :'}