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| Title: | Proudly built by the engineers of NaC Australia | 
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| Moderator: | DELNI::MUGGERIDGE | 
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| Created: | Mon Oct 12 1992 | 
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 908 | 
| Total number of notes: | 3829 | 
876.0. "Problem in setting up FTAM via X25." by HTSC19::KENNETH () Mon Mar 24 1997 22:02
Hi,
I am having a configuration problem with FTAM via X25 running on Digital 
V3.2G with X.25 V2.0. I also cross post on DNU_OSI.
This is my first time, so I don't know whether my configuration is correct
or not.  But from the trace below, the customer said it is our configruation
problem.  Therefore I would like to post it here for verification and
getting advice.
Is there anyone have the experience of setting FTAM with Norkia switch?
Thanks for your help in advance,
Kenneth Leung
================================================================================
Below is the configuration and settings:
          nwt6    (Backup machine)
	DEC21000
	+----+    dte 5432010
	|    | ---- \ / \ ---- Datapak
	+----+
          |
	+----+
	|    |	 router
	+----+
          |
        +----+  switch-1 for x29  +----+
        |    | -------------------|    | Norkia switch
        |    |                   -|    |
        |    |  switch-2 for FTAM |    |
        |    |--------------------|    |
        |    |  datapak for x29   +----+
        |    |--------- broken
	|    |--------switch-3 (not configured)
	|    |--------switch-4 (not configured)
	|    |--------switch-5 (not configured)
        +----+
	DEC2000   (Production machine)
         nwt7
	
OSI parameters :	
	DU's NSAP address : 3710000203010100  DTE 100002
	Norkia's NSAP addr: 3703792203010100  DTE 037922
	PSel = SSel = TSel = %0201
CTF trace :
----------
# ocp switch-2/ITAUC1/ITAUC2::'AM_7_11_0/LFILES/TTTCOF05.IMG' temp.img
 
 initialize: protocol error on Receiving an FTAM Association response
 Unexpected API response received
# ctf start x25 proto dte switch-2, live ,full
From Digital to Switch:
16:25:25.83|  Tx|   47|00CALL               |
                      | Called DTE 3792203010100 |
                      | Calling DTE 1000020301010|
                      | Facil 00 0F CB 09 10 37 10 00 02 03 01 01 00 C9 09 10
                      |       37 03 79 22 03 01 01 00
                      | Data  03 01 01 00
                      |
16:25:25.89|Rx  |    5|001    CLR    C=80 D=00   |
16:25:25.89|  Tx|    3|001   CLRC               |
 
From Switch to Digital when they customer copy files via FTAM from other system:
16:30:06.75|Rx  |   15|010    CALL               |
                      | Called DTE 100002        |
                      | Calling DTE 037922       |
                      | Facil  Data  03 01 01 00
                      |
16:30:06.75|  Tx|    5|01CLR    C=80 D=80      |
16:30:06.76|Rx  |    3|010    CLRC               |
However, from the trace of Norkia switch, the display like that:
<A I 27 P/F 0 LCN1 INC CALL
		Calling address: 0000000000000000
		Called address:
		Facilities length 10
		Facilities 000?<;000000000000000000000000
		User data
How come the calling address is all 0? and no called address?
# cat /etc/isoapplications
.
.
.
local_ftam      :FTAM:::%x0001.%x0001.%x0001. \
                        %X490001AA000400070421, \
                        provider=osi,template=default:
switch-2        :FTAM:::%x0201.%x0201.%x0201. \
                       %x3703792203010100, \
                       provider=osi,template=switch-2:
                                                             
# ps ax | grep list
 7944 ??       I        0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ftam_listener nwt7
 8172 ??       I        0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ftam_listener nwt7-rfc1006
 8176 ??       I        0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ftam_listener switch-2
 8327 ttyp1    S  +     0:00.00 grep list
cl> show osak appl * all
Node 0 OSAK Application * 
AT 1997-03-23-18:12:12.032+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    PAddress                          = "'0201'H/'0201'H/'0201'H/NS+3703792203010100,CLNS"
Status
    Active Invocations                = 1
    UID                               = 7317FBA3-A33B-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
Characteristics
    AE Titles                         = 
        {
            [
                Format = OID ,
                ObjectIdentifier = 
            ]
        }
    Template                          = "switch-2"
    Startup Policy                    = Existing
Counters
    Total Invocations                 = 1
    Resource Failures                 = 0
    Invalid Mode Failures             = 0
    Creation Time                     = 1997-03-23-13:08:12.000+08:00I-----
_______
Node 0 OSAK Application * 
AT 1997-03-23-18:12:12.032+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    PAddress                          = "'0001'H/'0001'H/'0001'H/NS+490001AA000400070421,CLNS"
Status
    Active Invocations                = 1
    UID                               = 7316CAA2-A33B-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
Characteristics
	:
	:
ncl> show x25 access filter switch-2 all
Node 0 X25 Access Filter switch-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:18:23.025+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = switch-2
Status
    Listener                          = 
    State                             = Free
    UID                               = 9E5AD9E0-A322-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
Characteristics
    Call Data Mask                    = 'FFFFFFFF'H
    Call Data Value                   = '03010100'H
    Group                             = ""
    Sending DTE Address               = 
    Inbound DTE Class                 = ""
    Receiving DTE Address             = 
    Redirect Reason                   = Not Specified
    Originally Called Address         = 
    Incoming DTE Address              = 
    Subaddress Range                  = 
        {
        }
    Called Address Extension Mask     = ''H
    Called Address Extension Value    = ''H
    Called NSAP                       = /
    Priority                          = 1
    Security Filter                   = Default
Counters
    Incoming Calls Blocked            =                    0
    Creation Time                     = 1997-03-23-10:10:27.471+08:00I-----
ncl> show osi tran templ switch-2 all
Node 0 OSI Transport Template switch-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:15:10.222+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = switch-2
Characteristics
    Keepalive Time                    = 60    SECONDS
    Retransmit Threshold              = 8
    Initial Retransmit Time           = 5    SECONDS
    CR Timeout                        = 30    SECONDS
    ER Timeout                        = 30    SECONDS
    Network Service                   = CONS
    Classes                           = { 0, 2, 4 }
    Checksums                         = False
    Maximum NSDU Size                 = 2048    OCTETS
    Expedited Data                    = True
    CONS Template                     = switch-2
    Use CLNS Error Reports            = False
    Acknowledgement Delay Time        = 1    SECONDS
    Local NSAP                        = /3710000203010100
    Send Implementation Id            = True
    Extended Format                   = True
    Send Preferred maximum TPDU size  = True
    Send Request Acknowledgement      = True
ncl> show x25 access templ switch-2 all 
Node 0 X25 Access Template switch-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:16:05.336+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = switch-2
Characteristics
    DTE Class                         = switch-2
    Destination DTE Address           = 
    Call Data                         = '03010100'H
    Local Subaddress                  = 
    Selected Group                    = ""
    Packet Size                       = 0
    Window Size                       = 0
    Throughput Class Request          = [ 0..0 ]
    Reverse Charging                  = False
    Fast Select                       = Not Specified
    Network User Identity             = ''H
    Charging Information              = False
    RPOA Sequence                     = 
        (
        )
    Transit Delay Selection           = 0
    Calling Address Extension         = /3710000203010100
    Target Address Extension          = /3703792203010100
    End-to-End Delay                  = [ 0..0 ]
    Expedited Data                    = Not Specified
    NSAP Mapping                      = False
    Local Facilities                  = ''H
    Quality Of Service                = ''H
FOR outgoing connection by using FTAM
-------------------------------------
ncl> show x25 access dte class switch-2 all
Node 0 X25 Access DTE Class switch-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:19:48.141+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = switch-2
Status
    Usable DTEs                       = 
        {
            switch-2
        }
Characteristics
    Type                              = Local
    Local DTEs                        = 
        {
            switch-2 ,
            dte-0
        }
    Security Dte Class                = Default
    International Prefix              = 
    Local Prefix                      = 
    DNIC                              = 
    Strip DNIC                        = False
    Profile                           = ""
ncl> show x25 prot dte switch-2 all
Node 0 X25 Protocol DTE switch-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:20:56.037+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = switch-2
Status
    UID                               = 9DC053C2-A322-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
    State                             = Running
    Available Outgoing Channels       = 16
    DTE Classes                       = 
        {
            switch-2
        }
    Groups                            = 
        {
        }
    Last State Change                 = 1997-03-23-10:10:28.283+08:00I-----
    Interface Mode                    = DCE
Characteristics
    Inbound DTE Class                 = switch-2
    Profile                           = "ISO8208"
    X25 Address                       = 10000203010100
    Interface Type                    = DCE
    Description                       = "X.25 for Digital UNIX"
    Maximum Active Circuits           = 4096
    Maximum Clear Attempts            = 1
    Maximum Reset Attempts            = 1
    Maximum Restart Attempts          = 1
    Call Timer                        = 200    seconds
    Clear Timer                       = 180    seconds
    Interrupt Timer                   = 180    seconds
    Reset Timer                       = 180    seconds
    Restart Timer                     = 180    seconds
    Link Service Provider             = LAPB Link link-2 
    Outgoing List                     = 
        {
            [ 1..16 ]
        }
    Extended Packet Sequencing        = False
    Maximum Throughput Class          = 65535
    Minimum Throughput Class          = 75
    Maximum Packet Size               = 128
    Default Packet Size               = 128
    Minimum Packet Size               = 16
    Maximum Window Size               = 7
    Default Window Size               = 2
    Minimum Window Size               = 1
    CCITT Version                     = 1984
    Incoming List                     = 
        {
            [ 1..16 ]
        }
    Segment Size                      = 64
    Switched Circuit                  = False
Counters
    Data Octets Received              =                    0
    Data Octets Sent                  =                    0
    Data PDUs Received                =                    0
    Data PDUs Sent                    =                    0
    Incoming Calls Connected          =                    0
    Outgoing Calls Connected          =                    0
    Calls Failed                      =                    5
    Fast Selects Received             =                    0
    Fast Selects Sent                 =                    0
    Locally Initiated Resets          =                    0
    Network Initiated Resets          =                    0
    Locally Initiated Restarts        =                    1
    Network Initiated Restarts        =                    1
    Allocated PVC Failures            =                    0
    Protocol Errors                   =                    0
    Diagnostic Packets                =                    0
    Illegal Packets                   =                    0
    Reject Packets                    =                    0
    Retry Failures                    =                    0
    Up Transitions                    =                    1
    Down Transitions                  =                    0
    Creation Time                     = 1997-03-23-10:10:26.459+08:00I-----
ncl>    show lapb link link-2 all
Node 0 LAPB Link link-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:22:11.545+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = link-2
Status
    State                             = On
    Protocol State                    = Running
    Physical Port                     = Modem Connect Data Port dns02 
    Maximum PDU size                  = 1029
    Line Type                         = Nonswitched
    UID                               = 9DB7FCC0-A322-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
Characteristics
    Profile                           = "ISO8208"
    Acknowledge Timer                 = 2000
    Sequence Modulus                  = 8
    Holdback Timer                    = 10
    Maximum Data Size                 = 1027
    Window Size                       = 7
    Interface Type                    = DCE
    Retry Maximum                     = 19
    Physical Line                     = Modem Connect Line line-2 
    Poll Timer                        = 76
Counters
    Times Link State Changed          =                    1
    CRC Errors Received               =                    0
    Data Octets Received              =                  100
    Data Octets Sent                  =                  275
    Data PDUs Received                =                   14
    Data PDUs Sent                    =                   15
    FRMRs Received                    =                    0
    FRMRs Sent                        =                    0
    Times Acknowledge Timer Expired   =                    0
    Times PDU Transmit Failed         =                    0
    Times PDU Receive Overrun         =                    0
    REJs Received                     =                  195
    REJs Sent                         =                    0
    Polls Received                    =                  195
    RNRs Received                     =                    0
    RNRs Sent                         =                    0
    Times Link Halted                 =                    0
    Times Link Resetting              =                    0
    Times Link Initialising           =                    1
    Times Link Running                =                    1
    Times Link Inoperative            =                    0
    Times Link Maintenance            =                    0
    Times Link Setup Failed           =                    0
    Creation Time                     = 1997-03-23-10:10:26.404+08:00I-----
ncl> show mode conn line line-2 all
Node 0 Modem Connect Line line-2 
AT 1997-03-23-18:23:14.555+08:00I-----
Identifiers
    Name                              = line-2
Status
    UID                               = 5A7661A0-A1BE-11D0-A016-0000F821099B
    State                             = On
    Interface State                   = Full Enabled
    Actual Speed                      = 0    BPS
    Loopback Mode                     = Null
    Interface Type                    = V35
    Modem Type                        = ""
    Request to Send                   = Asserted
    Clear to Send                     = Asserted
    Data Set Ready                    = Asserted
    Data Terminal Ready               = Asserted
    Carrier Detect                    = Asserted
    Signalling Rate Selector          = Asserted
    Signalling Rate Indicator         = Unknown
    Ring Indicator                    = Asserted
    Remote Loopback                   = Not Asserted
    Local Loopback                    = Not Asserted
    Test Mode                         = Asserted
Characteristics
    Communications Port               = dns2
    Connection Type                   = NonSwitched
    Communications Mode               = Synchronous
    Duplex                            = Full
    Profile                           = ""
    Modem Control                     = Full
    Modem Options                     = 
        {
        }
    Encoding                          = Normal
    Clock                             = External
    Speed                             = 0    BPS
    Alternate Speed                   = 0    BPS
    Rate Select                       = High
    Maximum Enable Transmit Timer     = 2000    Milliseconds
    Suppress Test Indicator           = False
    Transmit Holdoff Timer            = 0    MILLISECONDS
    Carrier Loss Timer                = 15000    MILLISECONDS
    Minimum DTR Deassertion Timer     = 2000    MILLISECONDS
    Maximum Disable Transmit Timer    = 500    MILLISECONDS
    Call Accept Timer                 = 0    MILLISECONDS
    Successful Call Indication Timer  = 30    SECONDS
    Maximum DSR Deassertion Timer     = 5000    MILLISECONDS
Counters
    Losses of Clock                   =                    0
    Cable Faults                      =                    1
    Times DCE Not Ready               =                    0
    Transmit Enable Timeouts          =                    0
    Losses Of Carrier                 =                    0
    Rate Fallbacks                    =                    0
    Test Indications                  =                   33
    Framing Errors                    =                    0
    Times Cable Detected              =                    1
    Device Errors                     =                    0
    Creation Time                     = 1997-03-21-15:40:12.731+08:00I-----
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
|---|
| 876.1 | Connection negotiation failed | HGOSPS::KENNETH |  | Wed Mar 26 1997 20:38 | 103 | 
|  | Hi,
We have new findings, if we set the x25 protocol dte swtich-2 X25 address to
100002, the Nokia switch looks recognise our dte address and below is the 
trace.  However, the connection is still not success.
Is there anyone knows why?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Regards,
Kenneth Leung
========================================================================
This is our command:
-------------------
ocp switch-2/ITAUC1/ITAUC2::'AM_7_11_0/LFILES/TTTCOF03.IMG' TEMP
initialize: protocol error on Receiving an FTAM Association response
 Unexpected API response received
From Digital to Nokia switch:
----------------------------
17:30:14.20|  Tx|   15|001    CALL               |
                      | Called DTE 037922        |
                      | Calling DTE 100002       |
                      | Facil  Data  03 01 01 00
                      |
17:30:14.23|Rx  |    8|001    CALLC              |
                      | Called DTE 037922        |
                      | Facil  Data
17:30:14.25|  Tx|   57|001    DATA        0/0    |35 e0 00 00 01 40 42 c3 02  >
17:30:14.27|Rx  |    3|001    RR    1/           |
17:30:14.28|Rx  |   21|001    DATA  1/0          |11 d0 01 40 01 fb 00 c2 02  >
17:30:14.28|  Tx|    3|001    RR          1/     |
17:30:14.28|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/1    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:14.30|Rx  |    3|001    RR    2/           |
17:30:24.08|Rx  |    3|001    RR    4/           |
17:30:29.05|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/4    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:29.06|Rx  |    3|001    RR    5/           |
17:30:34.03|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/5    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:34.04|Rx  |    3|001    RR    6/           |
17:30:39.01|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/6    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:39.02|Rx  |    3|001    RR    7/           |
17:30:43.99|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/7    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:44.00|Rx  |    3|001    RR    0/           |
17:30:48.97|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/0    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:48.98|Rx  |    3|001    RR    1/           |
17:30:53.95|  Tx|   13|001    DATA        1/1    |09 80 01 fb 00 00 82 e0 01  >
17:30:53.96|Rx  |    3|001    RR    2/           |
17:30:58.93|  Tx|    5|001    CLR    C=80 D=00   |
17:30:58.95|Rx  |    3|001    CLRC               |
CTF>
From Nokia Switch to Digital:
-----------------------------
7:31:55.15|Rx  |   15|010    CALL               |
                      | Called DTE 100002        |
                      | Calling DTE 037922       |
                      | Facil  Data  03 01 01 00
                      |
17:31:55.15|  Tx|    5|010    CLR    C=80 D=80   |
17:31:55.17|Rx  |    3|010    CLRC               |
This is the console message when make call from Digital side:
--------------------------------------------------------------
          
Disconnection
       from: Node LOCAL:.nwt7 OSI Transport Local NSAP %X3710000203010100 Remote NSAP %X3703792203010100 
       at  : 1997-03-26-17:30:53.955+08:00I-----
       Reason                            = Connection negotiation failed
       DNA Error                         = Proposed protocol class unavailable
    Name                              = switch-2
Characteristics
    Keepalive Time                    = 60    SECONDS
    Retransmit Threshold              = 8
    Initial Retransmit Time           = 5    SECONDS
    CR Timeout                        = 30    SECONDS
    ER Timeout                        = 30    SECONDS
    Network Service                   = CONS
    Classes                           = { 0, 2, 4 }
    Checksums                         = False
    Maximum NSDU Size                 = 2048    OCTETS
    Expedited Data                    = True
    CONS Template                     = switch-2
    Use CLNS Error Reports            = False
    Acknowledgement Delay Time        = 1    SECONDS
    Local NSAP                        = /3710000203010100
    Send Implementation Id            = True
    Extended Format                   = True
    Send Preferred maximum TPDU size  = True
    Send Request Acknowledgement      = True
    
ocp switch-2/ITAUC1/ITAUC2::'AM_7_11_0/LFILES/TTTCOF03.IMG' TEMP
initialize: protocol error on Receiving an FTAM Association response
 Unexpected API response received
 | 
| 876.2 |  | DRAGNS::RMULAC::S_WATTUM | Scott Wattum - FTAM/VT/OSAK Engineering | Wed Mar 26 1997 23:11 | 3 | 
|  | Change the classes on the transport template you are using to be just class 0.
It looks like we may be trying to set up a class 4 connection, and the switch
doesn't support class 4 (or doesn't support it correctly).
 | 
| 876.3 | Classes 0 or 2 | CHEFS::ELLERBY_J |  | Thu Mar 27 1997 03:36 | 5 | 
|  |     We are running fine with classes {0 ,2} for a Nokia switch. You don't need
    to use class 4 in the CONS config, and it doesn't work as you have
    found out.           
    
    Jed
 | 
| 876.4 | Thanks, set to 0 work. | HGOSPS::KENNETH |  | Thu Mar 27 1997 16:07 | 7 | 
|  |     Hi Jed,
    
    Thanks, we just told by Nokia, the class should be set to 0. 
    
    It works fine now.  Thanks,
    
    Kenneth Leung
 |