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| Title: | Movie Reviews and Discussion | 
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| Created: | Thu Jan 28 1993 | 
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447.0. "The Krays" by DSSDEV::RUST () Mon Jan 31 1994 16:49
    I'd been intrigued by this one since it hit the theaters, but never got
    around to seeing it until a mild tape-rental fit came over me this
    weekend. It's a based-in-fact story about twin brothers
    (charismatically played by the brothers Kemp from the group Spandau
    Ballet) who became kingpins of crime - but it's not, with a few grisly
    exceptions, a gangster story. The boys' mother is the central figure;
    the film covers the period from the birth of the twins to the death of
    the mother, and views the Krays' criminal activities from the "home base"
    of their mother's drawing room.
    
    I didn't find the film as sensational as I'd expected; perhaps the
    reviews I read were colored by the more spectacular splatter scenes
    (which were pretty effective, though a very small part of the film as a
    whole - we already knew the brothers were psychotic, so the additional
    slittings and gougings were just icing on the cake, so to speak). To
    me, the film was the tale of a pair of blue-collar kids who made good,
    despite an absentee father, a tigerish mother, and a doting aunt. And
    they were such good boys; they'd hold their "business meetings" in a
    room upstairs from Mum's, so she could pop in with tea and biscuits and
    a friendly greeting to all the boys... The scenes in which the audience
    learns just what business it is that the lads are excelling in seemed
    like asides. 
    
    The effect should have been chilling, this mix of cold-blooded savagery
    with teacups and chintz, but it didn't quite get to me, and I'm not
    sure why. The performances were strong, but the narrative seemed to
    wander, and while there was something of a climax near the end, roughly
    comparable to the mass-vengeance scene in "The Godfather", it didn't
    have anywhere near the same impact. [Perhaps the director was trying
    for a more phlegmatic mood, the Krays being British, after all. ;-)]
    
    All in all, I found it worth watching, but not worth going to a lot of
    trouble for. [Is that a **?]
    
    -b
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| 447.1 | 1.618 *s | VMSDEV::HALLYB | Fish have no concept of fire | Mon Jan 31 1994 21:59 | 15 | 
|  |     Compare this to, say, Goodfellas or maybe the last Godfather movie.
    The Krays are way outclassed. In my opinion it's because we don't
    develop any sympathy for the Kray kids. Goodfellas went thru a lot
    of effort to explain the central character's motivations. We don't
    approve of what he does but at least we can see where he's coming from
    and take some sort of voyeuristic satisfaction when he successfully
    bombs a restaurant and enjoys the flamage.
    
    The Krays, on the other hand, just sort of move from one shootout to
    the next -- with occasional breaks for tea at home. Perhaps the
    director was consciously trying to portray them as cold, emotionless
    killers. Not as "romantic" as the typical gangster fare. At least,
    that's what I remember...I saw the video a couple years ago.
    
      John
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| 447.2 |  | 65320::RIVERS | Stupid, STUPID rat creatures! | Tue Feb 01 1994 11:21 | 23 | 
|  |     Oh, I really liked this movie.  In fact, in it's own way, I liked it
    better than the Godfather(s).  The Krays struck me as a character study
    more than a full-blown gangster drama.  And of course, add to that the
    fact that I think psychotic people are really interesting.  :)  It was
    well-acted, nicely-filmed and (to me) pretty engrossing. 
    
    I would grant it's not for everybody -- it's a bit slow, not full of
    gunfire, and often times, even it seems evens British gangsters act like 
    Alfred the butler. ;)  And no, the characters aren't particularly 
    sympathetic, but I don't think where meant to be (FWIW, I didn't find 
    Michael Corleone particularly sympathetic either.  I found him a terrific 
    ass.  But I was still curious to see what would happen next).  
                                          
    I'd give this a solid *** out of ****.
    
    Naturally, your mileage may vary.
                                          
    
    Cheers,
    
    kim
    
                                                            
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| 447.3 | Good rental, good story | 5315::CLARK |  | Thu Jun 02 1994 21:49 | 6 | 
|  |     Good for a video rental. Quite a fascinating story. If I remember 
    correctly this is based on a true story. Billy Whitelaw played the mom
    and I have always considered her a first rate actress. She played the
    nanny who was protecting Damien in "The OMen". The scene where she 
    attacks Gregory Peck scared the hell out of me. I believe she is
    another of England's gifts to American films. 
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