Conference bookie::movies

	Was this a real movie?  I thought this was a so called
	"made for TV movie" (ie. take a 1/2 hour plot, stretch it to
	2 hours and call it a movie) on FOX TV network last night?

    >>Was this a real movie? 
    
    Yes, oh you mean did it play in a theater?  No.
    
    I think lots of TV movies have "come a long way baby" in providing good
    entertainment/information. Though I myself shy away from TV movies, not
    due to a supposed lack of quality just can't sit still for 2-3 hours
    :^}
    
    So, since I didn't get to see this, but I saw the ads, I was wondering
    what others thought of it.  I did see Groundhog Day and found the
    seemingly infinite loop intriguing.
    
    JT

    Compared to Groundhog Day...
    
    ..I thought it came out much the worse. His need to get out of the loop
    as fast as possible seemed unnecessary. He could have taken several
    'detours' as did Bill Murray in the movie. Specifically, his rush to
    the finish line, when he literally had all the time in the world, meant
    the unnecessary death of Denk the other scientist. As soon as he heard
    the news he should have relaxed for the rest of the evening and tried
    again in the morning. A few dozen more times and he could have gained
    all of his goals easily. 
    
    Neil
    

    This was a 1/2 hour "made for TV movie" that I think was on the
    Showtime network.
    
    I read in yesterday's Boston Globe that it is being expanded into
    a full-length theatrical release. Re-written, re-cast, re-filmed.
    
    -- Bill

    No, this was a 2-hour made-for-TV-movie which is part of the FOX
    network's expansion into being the 4th network. 

    According to TV Guide, though, it was based on a short film of the same
    name - perhaps from Showtime?
    
    Mike

    I think the two movies are difficult to compare. Groundhog day in a
    romantic comedy and 12:01 is a romantic thriller. The reason he rushed
    through the film is because each day he saw the woman he love killed,
    annoying to say the least. Another big difference is Bill Murry's
    character went through a dark period and committed suicide a number of
    times before the end of the movie. Ron Silvers' character just enters 
    his dark phase when his mother wakes him up and he decide he must get 
    it right this time.  
                        Jeff Peters 

    This was an adaptation and expansion of "12:01," which appeared on pay
    for view last year as a 30 minute shortie, and was, in turn, a film
    adaptation of a short story of the same name by a fellow named Luboff.
    "Ground Hog Day" was written and produced well after the story "12:01."
    
    The original 30 minute version was, in my opinion, much punchier and
    pithier. It involves a fellow who finds himself standing at the curb of
    a busy street in downstown, at 12:01 PM. The "time bounce" theory is
    introduced via a newspaper headline. In this version, he 'bounces' every
    1:00pm, back to 12:01pm, giving him the same hour to relive over and
    over. And despite taking ever greater chances each time, including
    murder and then suicide, the show ends with him again standing at the
    curbside, at 12:01, finding that he is indeed hopelessly trapped for
    eternity in the same hour. It was a very powerful show. 
    
    The expanded "12:01" on FOX was entertaining, but not in the same class
    (which I guess is common when a 30 minute great show gets stretched to
    120 minutes).
    
    
    ken                                                               
     

    I agree re. the short film.  Kurtwood Smith was extraordinary as the
    man caught in the loop in the 30 minute movie.  Jonathan Silverman
    comes off as a confused bumbler, not someone emotionally wrought over
    the implications that the situation present him with.  The Fox movie
    was entertaining, and Helen Slater was wonderful as the female
    scientist/ love interest, but I strongly recommend the 30 minute 
    version to everyone.
    
    NAZZ

    Kurtwood Smith. Thanks -- couldn't remember his name. Most will
    remember him as the crazed criminal ringleader in "Robocop."
    
    

    
    Or the father in Dead Poet's Society
    Or the head cop in Oscar
    
    (which, admittedly, might not be as memorable)
    
    DFW

    I enjoyed 12:01 completely. I agree that the agent's death was
    unneccesary, and could have been rectified, but then I'm pretty sure he
    was meant as a throw-away character from the start. The only thing
    I didn't care about in Groundhog Day was the character Bill Murray
    played, which seemed to be the same typecast he always plays; stuck on
    himself, me me me person. 10 years and I still don't know if I like the
    actor because he's always the same in any of the movies I see him in. 
    Also, I think the pair in 12:01 seemed a better match than the pair in
    Groundhog Day. (OK, I know realistically that the oddest people can be 
    happy together, but these are movies, so I can get away with 
    stereotyping. Can't I?)  
    
    MBH

    I just saw the other day a made-for TV movie called 12:01 starring
    Helen Slater and a guy that I can't think of the name for, on video.
    I kind of liked this Groundhog Day rehashed movie... :)
    
    Michael

    
    	RE: .8
    
    	Excellent movie!!  Saw it sometime last year on cable [USA?].
    
    	Jonathan Silverman, maybe?
    
    							GTI
    

    Actually, my wording was sort of off... I saw the video (literally)
    recently, I saw the movie on TV when it first broadcast.. hehehe
    
    It was enjoyable, wasn't it? <G>
    
    Michael

For info :
12:01 PM has won the "Prize/Award of the Audience" during 
the 12th International Festival of Science-Fiction, Thriller 
and Fantasy film, held on Brussels (Belgium) in March 1994.
The director - Jack Sholder - went to present the movie and 
was also member of the jury.

Philippe.

    It's been a while since I've seen this, but this reply reminded me of
    something that bugged me about the film, which is a spoiler...
    
    The nasty co-worker, who turned out to be a good guy after all, was
    killed on the last day. Since the hero had all the time in the world,
    he should have stopped trying at that point, made a note, and tried
    again the next day. With practice he should have been able to walk
    through the entire day and gotten out of the loop while saving the
    co-worker's life.
    

    12:01 was tremendous!  Starred Kurtwood Smith, I believe.
    
    NAZZ

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