| Title: | Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN! | 
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| Moderator: | VIDEO::PULSIFER | 
| Created: | Mon Oct 10 1988 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
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    Looks like I'm going to loose one of my Finches, The White Headed
    Nun.  We woke up this morning and he was lying on the bottom of
    the cage.  I immediately put him and his mate in a small cage with
    a heating pad and cover.  I called my vet and explained that his
    droppings are very yellow (not flourecent) just a rich yellow. 
    I explained that he is pretty listless but gets percky occasionally.
    My vet proceeded to explain that it is very common in finches to
    experience liver failure.  She feels this is probably the case because
    of the yellow droppings.  We are giving him some anti-biotics, but
    my vet wasn't real hopefull this will work.  Any body else had this
    problem?  Did your finches pull through or not?  I feel real bad
    for the mate to this guy.  When I first pulled him out of the flight,
    she started to get real noisy over him being gone, so I put them
    both together and they both perked up.  I'm sad... it looks as though
    there isn't much hope.  I have had both birds for about a year now
    and haven't brought any new birds in recently without a 45 day
    quaranteen so I don't think he is dying because of some recently
    caught diseas, however, if he does pass on, I will have a full
    autopsy done to make sure.  It's just sorta ruined my whole day.
    
    Karen
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| 105.1 | Sharing sympathy pains | CHEFS::DEAL | Wed Feb 01 1989 08:36 | 2 | |
|     Sorry!  I don't think there's anything more devastating than finding
    a pet on the bottom of the cage.  
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| 105.2 | Wood stain fumes??? | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | Hand picked by Juan Valdez | Wed Feb 01 1989 11:12 | 26 | 
|     My finch is 100% BETTER!  Can you believe it.  He is percky, has
    nice tight feathers again and big round eyes.  He is eating like
    crazy.  I believe he is saved!  One of my Cordon's got a little
    sick too but is now all percked up again.  The only thing now that
    I can think of is wood stain fumes.  I know.. talking about bird
    dangers and her I am exposing my birds to wood stain, but we stained
    in the garage and the birds are several rooms away.  The Finches
    seemed to be the only ones affected if this is what it was.  My
    vet seems to think that its possible because their small size makes
    them more suseptable however we couldn't smell the fumes at all
    in the house and didn't do very much staining at that.  We had the
    garage doors open, so there was plenty of ventilation but I guess
    even trace amounts can affect the little guys.  We took some fecal
    samples in and the vet says they look good, no signs of any real
    infection.  I can't believe that stain could cause this since we
    where so careful to not let any in the house but....  All the rest
    of my birds are fine, including the Canaries which aren't a whole
    lot bigger.  This is weirod.. but I'll tell you, I'll be staining
    in the street next time if at all again!  Actually I hope this is
    what it is, or else I have something else going on, however none
    of the other birds got sick and all the finches are doing fine now.
    I did move them upstairs to quaranteen the whole lot of them and
    keep them warm and also put antibiotics in their water so I'm keeping
    my fingers crossed!
    
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| 105.3 | WITNES::HANNULA | Round Up the Usual Suspects | Wed Feb 01 1989 12:11 | 5 | |
|     Karen,
    
    Congratulations on having a happy and healthy flock again.
    
    	-Nancy
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