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| 56.1 | Not sure but... | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | P.I.A.S.O.M. | Tue Nov 15 1988 16:37 | 4 | 
|  |     I have heard that if an infection exists, this could be causing
    problems with their ability to balance.  Kind-of like people
    with ear infections....  Maybe some one has more on this!
   
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| 56.2 | Or...the perches are too large! | FREKE::HUTCHINS | Feathered Obsessions Aviary | Tue Nov 15 1988 16:56 | 15 | 
|  |     Aside from infection...but you did mention sneezing...maybe your
    perches are too large!  When a bird perches, his claws should go
    all the way around the perch, not be spread out.  This too, helps
    to keep nails trim!  The nails grow to compensate for lack of length
    of toes...Do you understand?
    
    I usually do not supply store bought perches, rather, I go to an
    apple orchard and pick a cluster of branches, this gives the bird
    a variety of perches and they can exercise their little feet better!
    
    Try that!  Remember--if you use trees as a source for perches, clean
    them with bleach, or bake them for a while to kill pesticides and
    bugs!
    
    Jean
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| 56.3 |  | WITNES::MACONE | It's the story of a man named Brady | Tue Nov 15 1988 17:25 | 10 | 
|  |     Re .2
    
    How big should a cockatiel's perch be?
    
    Re .1
    
    If they have had an infection for 2+ years that affected their balance,
    would they still be alive?
    
    	-Nancy
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| 56.4 | Jean, where are yooooooo? | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | P.I.A.S.O.M. | Tue Nov 15 1988 17:41 | 5 | 
|  |     Nancy,
    
    About the infection for two years...  I doubt it,  but................
    
    Lets ask JEAN!
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| 56.5 | My experience.... | EUREKA::WHITE |  | Wed Nov 16 1988 10:05 | 20 | 
|  |     Let me add my TWO cents worth.........
    
    
    I had a pair of Molluccan Cockatoos that lived together for one
    and a half years. All of a sudden, the male developed a condition
    that looked like the bird was dead drunk, could NOT walk using feet.
    He would roll around the bottom of the cage (this made me feel awful!)
    I called Dr Decoteau (My main man) who made a "house call" (No charge)
    and told me the symptoms were of a disorder commoc to cockatoos
    that would NOT spread throughout my aviary.  He ordered a special
    medicine for me and I dosed it out till it was gone. No improvement,
    and after another year, the bird finally died.  The reason I am
    telling this story is that the condition that note .3 was referring
    about is probably this, but my cockatoo couldn't stand on a perch.
    
    I will try and remember the name of the condition, (real long name.)
    
    ANy ideas Jean??
    
    chet
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| 56.6 | I'll keep my TWO cents to myself | FREKE::HUTCHINS | Feathered Obsessions Aviary | Wed Nov 16 1988 11:56 | 19 | 
|  |     CHET...  How *well* do you know your main man?  Write me outside
    of notes please!
    
    There are always seizures you know!  Most common in Amazons, but
    cockatoos can be affected too!  ALL infections can be passed from
    bird to bird...I'm afraid, especially with cockatiels, that the
    birds would succumb to an affliction...not remain chronic like a
    cat or dog might...
    
    Chet, it sounds like your cockatoo had epilipsy!  There is very
    little that can be done for seizures.
    
    Cockatiel perches...well the foot should close completely, so maybe
    a half inch in diameter and a three quarter inch perch would be
    alright.  Try cutting some branches and placing them in the cage
    too!
    
    J
    
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| 56.7 |  | WITNES::MACONE | It's the story of a man named Brady | Thu Nov 17 1988 10:48 | 11 | 
|  |     Gosh, my perches aren't even a half inch diameter -- 3/8 I think.
    I was under the impression that the perches were too small, but
    due to the bars of the cage, I really couldn't go to anything bigger.
    I wa sthinking of getting the "Universal Perches". . .
    
    Regarding what Chet said, wel  both my guys climb all over the place
    and appear totally healthy, 'cept they just tend to fall down at
    times.  I guess I just have clumsy birds.
    
    
    	-Nancy
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| 56.8 | Crash helmits ? | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | P.I.A.S.O.M. | Thu Nov 17 1988 11:06 | 15 | 
|  |     Nancy, Hi!
    
    I hope you don't think we are out to scare you or anything, we just
    want to make sure your birds are healthy and happy and live a long,
    long time for you!.  I'm sure your probably correct about just having 
    clumsey birds since they both are doing this. My baby Quakers are
    always getting themselves into strange positions especially when
    one or the other is hogging the food dish!.  If you do feel worried 
    then a trip to the Vet wouldn't hurt.  
    
    Take care!
    
    Karen from Colorado
    
    PS.  Do they make crash helmits for birds?
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| 56.9 | Chocolate????? | EUREKA::WHITE |  | Mon Nov 21 1988 14:24 | 7 | 
|  |     Did you read Bird talk this month?????? there was an article regarding
    feeding "chocolate" can be fatal or cause birds to fall off perches??
    
    
    
    just a 
    chet
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| 56.10 | Interesting! | SQUEKE::HUTCHINS | Feathered Obsessions Aviary | Tue Nov 22 1988 11:38 | 6 | 
|  |     Hi Chet!
    
    >Is it the caffine, or the cocoa?  I don't get bird talk anymore!
    It's sure interesting though!  Thanks for the info!
    
    J
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| 56.11 | not caffeine | FSTVAX::WIMMER |  | Mon Nov 28 1988 14:15 | 3 | 
|  |     January issue of Bird Talk, in article about "135 hints" says it
    is a particular ingredient in the chocolate --something "bromine"
    I think.
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| 56.12 | Caffeine is not good either | CSC32::K_WORKMAN | P.I.A.S.O.M. | Mon Nov 28 1988 14:53 | 3 | 
|  |     The January issue of Bird Talk also says, in the section where
    they have the steps for proper bird care, DO NOT give your
    birds Caffeine either.  This is dangerous to their health also.
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| 56.13 | chocolate | NYFS01::CHERYL | Cheryl McGinty | Tue Nov 29 1988 07:44 | 7 | 
|  |     I was reading an article about how dangerous chocolate is.  One
    candy bar can KILL a small dog.  I bet it wouldn't take much chocolate
    to kill a small bird.  I don't remember the specifics of why, but
    my dog didn't like the news very much. (He loves Reese's cups).
    
    cheryl
    
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| 56.14 |  | AKOV13::LAJEUNESSE |  | Mon Dec 05 1988 13:02 | 11 | 
|  |     This has been happening with my bird.  It's only late at night when
    she is a sleep.  All of a sudden you'll hear her hit the bottom
    of the cage.  She climbs back up and ruffles a little and then goes
    back to sleep.  
    
    I thought about putting a towel or something under her at night.
     
    
    Mark
    
    
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