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| 90.1 |  | BOSOX::LCOBURN | How # sins can I get $ make heaven? | Fri Jun 21 1991 12:07 | 8 | 
|  |     I know very little about breeding so perhaps this is a stupid
    question, but why not AI ?? Is it incredibly difficult, or
    expensive??  My mare is a former broodmare, and it's a pain
    in the butt at times. She winks at her trailmate constantly,
    and can get very irritable at times. I've always wondered if
    she's be less excitable had she been bred an alternative way.
    (she was breed 4 times by live cover).
    
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| 90.2 |  | KAHALA::FULTZ | ED FULTZ | Fri Jun 21 1991 12:29 | 7 | 
|  | While there are various notes on breeding, there doesn't seem to be any
specifically addressing a virgin mare being bred and all of the problems that
might arise from this.  So, how about any suggestions from those more 
knowledgeable.
Ed..
co-moderator
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| 90.3 | BE CAREFUL FOR ALL CONCERNED...MAN AND ANIMAL | ASABET::NICKERSON | KATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025 | Fri Jun 21 1991 12:41 | 17 | 
|  |     I will get my husband to answer this one.  He handled the stallion(s)
    and I handled the mares.  They are all different.  Some are very
    difficult and others are fine.  In my opinion if it is a maiden mare
    and a "rowdy" stallion, and let me tell you they are different
    creatures when they are breeding, you should have someone with
    experience handle them or at least help.
    It can be dangerous to you, the stallion and the mare.
    
    As far as the wild goes, it may have been okay because there were no
    "restrictions" put on by man...for example, they ran together and knew
    in most cases when the "right" time was; they had no halters on with
    someone tugging on the other side, etc.
    
    Good luck...it is a wonderful experience but please be careful for
    everyone's sake.
    
    
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| 90.4 | stallions in the wild are quickly replaced | ESCROW::ROBERTS |  | Mon Jun 24 1991 08:17 | 17 | 
|  |     About horses in the wild -- 
    
    Yes, we seem to go to great lengths to protect our horses when they are
    doing something that should be natural.  But, if you really analyze it
    closely, most of the protecting is for the stallion, who is actually
    the one more likely to be hurt.  
    
    In the wild, protection for the stallion is not as necessary.  In the
    first place, his mares are part of his herd and therefore are not
    strangers.  But also, the simple fact is that stallions are expendable!
    There are many more waiting on the edges of herd society to take over
    as soon as the ruling stallion is injured.  In captivity, the economics
    of breeding turn things around, and it is the stallions who generate
    the most money and so are carefully protected.
    
    -ellie
    
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| 90.5 | Breeding | AKOCOA::LESAGE |  | Mon Jun 24 1991 11:56 | 11 | 
|  |     Having handled many stallions years ago and having been involved in the
    breeding aspect of horses, I can understand your concerns.  We used
    breeding hobbles on any mare we were not sure about. These hobbles were
    to protect the stallion from being kicked.  So I am not sure what were
    fears were about breeding hobbles.  We also used a teasing stallion to
    make sure the mare was ready.  We had some stallions we had to muzzle to
    keep them from biting the mares.  The best advise is to make sure the
    people handling the breeding know what they are doing.  This can be
    dangerous for the horses and the handlers if not done correctly. 
    Believe it or not this does not come naturally to some horses.
                
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| 90.6 | Do you have help? | FRAGLE::PELUSO | PAINTS; color your corral | Mon Jun 24 1991 11:59 | 24 | 
|  |     Hi Tina-
    
    I have watched/helped my instructor w/ several breedings over the past
    few years, and from what little I know, I would think almost anything
    could happen.
    
    Her main stud is quite loud and excitable, another one who visits `camp'- 
    more subdued, and her newest acquisition, well I haven't seen anything yet,
    but I hear he's quiet too.  All the mare's act differently.
    
    I saw one maiden mare try to make this stud a gelding, but a few of the
    seasoned mares have tried too as well.  My girlfriends mare had to be
    restrained more than usual, because she wouldn't stand from the stud.
    It took many coverings to get her pregnant.   
    
    Do you or can you have the help of someone who is experienced in
    handeling mares and stallions?  If you'd like the name of my instructor
    contact me off line......maybe she can give you a better idea of what
    to expect and have some suggestions for handeling.
    
    Good luck!
    
    Michele
                                                               
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| 90.7 | Age of Maiden Mare... | DEMON::RHODAN::DIROCCO |  | Wed Jul 17 1991 15:51 | 3 | 
|  |     How old is too old for a maiden mare? Just curious.
    
    Deb
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| 90.8 | courting | MTADMS::DOUGLAS |  | Fri Jul 19 1991 09:07 | 10 | 
|  |     RE: .11
    
    	Yes, I think that is a good idea to let them have time to "court".
    I did put them side by side and he gets to speak and muzzle with the
    mare. She is not sure what to think about all his fussing over her.
    
    	I am going to wait until next spring to breed her. I want to 
    train her this year and maybe she being older will be a little more
    settled. I also want a spring baby, I think it's late now although
    I know people that have bred up until August.
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