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| 1606.1 | outrageous | ORDERS::GOODWIN | | Wed Jun 20 1990 16:52 | 8 |
| My recommendations: be persistent with the police and press charges
against your assailant. The occupants of the automobile definitely
need to be taught that their behavior was unacceptable and not to be
tolerated. With the other cyclist as a coroberating eye-witness, it
should be an open-and-shut case.
Good luck,
Steve
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| 1606.2 | wow! | SHALOT::ELLIS | John Lee Ellis - assembly required | Wed Jun 20 1990 17:33 | 6 |
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You're right - it's pretty hard to believe that people would
behave that way. Kinda scary. Yes, please be persistent, as
long as it's not more trouble to you than is reasonably worth it.
-john
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| 1606.3 | I believe it. | QUICKR::FISHER | Dictionary is not. | Thu Jun 21 1990 08:56 | 4 |
| I believe it. There's the story of my being assaulted on Rt 119 in
Ashby, MA, on April 28... But I won't bore everyone...
ed
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| 1606.4 | Did you mark him for easy identification? | UJEST::POST | | Thu Jun 21 1990 10:03 | 5 |
| Hmmmm.. 2 against 1.....
I hope you got a couple of good shots in. Or least a tire pump to
side of the head three or four times.
ERIC
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| 1606.5 | It's getting spooky out there | GSFSWS::JSMITH | Chromed Cannondale | Fri Jun 22 1990 12:26 | 9 |
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Another reason for feeling insecure about giving
up my Zefal hpx for a mini pump.
re: Assault on Rt. 119 - Bore Me with the details. I send
a lot of my Saturday rides over that route and would like
to inform others on who/what to be on the lookout for.
_Jerry
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| 1606.6 | Sounds like a job for Spike Bike! | DNEAST::MILLEY_ROBB | Is that brew ready yet?? | Fri Jun 22 1990 12:27 | 2 |
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| 1606.7 | Bernard Getts II | SUBWAY::SCHULMAN | | Mon Jun 25 1990 13:20 | 11 |
| I spoke to the detective assigned to the case.
He said that hw spoke with the "dude". The cop said that the dude said
that we hit first, after he got out of the car just to yell at us.
The cop said that if I wanted I could press charges, but he didn't
see how I could prove what I say is true. He said if it didn't happen
in front of a cop there was nothing they were going to do.
Any comments?
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| 1606.8 | | TALLIS::JBELL | Zeno was almost here | Mon Jun 25 1990 13:42 | 9 |
| You now have an admission that he got out of the car in
order to yell at you. Whether this is enough, I don't know.
On the other hand, the call from the police will probably
discourage him at least a little bit the next time.
Free legal advice and worth every penny,
-Jeff Bell
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| 1606.9 | | JUPTR::CRITZ | Who'll win the TdF in 1990? | Mon Jun 25 1990 13:47 | 7 |
| Funny how cops always say you have to do something in
front of them (cops) before they can act.
I believe this adds to people wanting to take matters
into their own hands.
Scott
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| 1606.10 | Police might not, you can. | USWAV7::CLELAND | Why, I oughta... | Tue Jun 26 1990 08:27 | 11 |
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The police officer sounds as if he is unwilling to press charges
against this individual(s).
YOU still can. Provided you know the truth of the incident. WHO
threw the first blow? Like another reply said, if it's worth the
hassle to you, then press charges. Assault & battery is nothing
to laugh at. Merely threatening someone with bodily harm is the
equivalent of assault, or at the least harrassment.
Did your friend throw the first punch? Tell the truth now...
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| 1606.11 | | KAHALA::GOODWIN_S | | Tue Jun 26 1990 09:31 | 16 |
| Sounds to me like the cop is your typical lazy s.o.b. who is more
interested in his coffee breaks than doing his job. If it were me,
I'd definitely press charges, but that's just the way I am. Since
the cops didn't witness the incident, they have to go on what the
eyewitnesses say. The kid and his family will certainly maintain a
unified front, but it seems to me that his admission of getting out
of his car to yell at you constitutes harrasment, and if he did hit
first, that is assault.
All in all, it may not be worth your aggravation to pursue this case.
I just hate to see that type of indiviual get off easy. When there
is no deterrent, his poor judgement and behavior is only reinforced.
What does the other cyclist think?
Steve
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| 1606.12 | Push the charges..... | ESKIMO::BOURGAULT | | Tue Jun 26 1990 22:52 | 36 |
| Go for the charges..... get it on the record - his record!
Maybe you won't "win" this one. (Win defined as him being found
guilty in court...) You WILL establish a record - with the police
and with the court - of what happened. All the "evidence" will
be there.... Now, suppose he gets off this time.... what will
the police and court think the NEXT time somebody hauls him in
for something similar? Yes, I know that his previous court
case cannot be used as "evidence" in the next case, BUT.... it
will establish with the investigating police, etc. that this is
NOT the first time somebody has accused this guy! If you were
the cop(s) investigating, what difference(s) would you see in
a case where (1) the guy has NEVER been accused before and (2)
the guy has one or more previous accusations? Do you spoze
that MAYBE the cops would start to dig a little harder, find
witness(es) that were in the area, etc. and just MIGHT get him
the second or third time? I hope so....
The question is.... is it worth it to YOU to be the one to get
this on the record? It will be a bunch of irritation, aggravation,
and pains in the butt, probably.... You decide.
No, I don't want to get into "gun" arguments here - but....
I understand that the latest fellow to walk into a building
(his car had been reposessed...) and start shooting had several
previous arrests for violence. How he plea-bargained his way
down or out of them, and kept his record clean enough to be able
to buy a gun legally, is another chapter in our failing legal system.
I wonder, though, if the courts would have done things differently
if a couple more people had pressed charges on this guy some time
ago.... maybe the guy would have been locked up in time??
Yes, I am assuming that a guy brought to court several times for
assault & battery, etc. type crimes has a few more incidents that
COULD have been brought to court....
- Ed -
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| 1606.13 | Ask a shark. | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Uphill, Into the Wind | Wed Jun 27 1990 11:41 | 4 |
| Ask a lawyer. I suspect that many bicycling groups (such as LAW)
could either suggest one or give you a list from your area.
--David
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| 1606.14 | the jurk will think next time | SLUGER::DMITCHELL | | Wed Jul 11 1990 18:11 | 9 |
| What I would do is take and write a letter to the registry
and tell them about the problem.
I was told by a policeman this is the best way to do it.
If there is alot of complants about this car the driver could
lose his drivers licence or get fined or both.
This would make it easier to ride our bikes without a jurk
stoping and fighting with everyone that loves riding a BIKE.....
DAVE
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