| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 1295.1 | Ask a skier | GSFSWS::JSMITH | Support Bike Helmets for Kids | Thu Aug 24 1989 09:01 | 9 | 
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>    Have any of you tried this? Does 3M Scotchguard really waterproof
>    fabric as well as 'protect' it? Has it worked for you? Or has 
    
	I've never tried it on panniers but it works great
    for skiing.  Ask any kid that ski's in jeans what they
    use to keep them dri and they'll probably say Scotchguard
    or silicone spray.
    						_Jerry      
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| 1295.2 | USE PLASTIC TO INSURE DRYNESS | AKOV11::FULLER |  | Thu Aug 24 1989 09:21 | 5 | 
|  |     Even if you Scotchguard it, don't depend that this will keep your
    clothes dry.  Plastic or lined nylon bags are needed.   I think
    any experienced tourist will agree with this.
    
    steve
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| 1295.3 | get thee some Seam Sealer! | SUSHI::KMACDONALD | Is there life after drywall? | Thu Aug 24 1989 09:51 | 7 | 
|  | Using seam sealer on the bags is essential to keeping the water out. 
Most of the water that leaks into packs made of waterproof fabric is 
thru the seams. Even this won't stop water 100%; inner bags will help to 
catch the remainder. Personally I don't take anything on an extended 
tour that can't stand at least a LITTLE water....
                        ken
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| 1295.4 | Dry Gear | VAXWRK::OXENBERG | Apocalyptical Illusion | Thu Aug 24 1989 10:31 | 15 | 
|  | I 
I have had excellent success lining my panniers with hefty plastic 
bags.  I usally get the thickest ones available.  I've been caught in 
some very heavy rain storms, some lasting for 25 miles or so of riding 
before I got sick of the weather and my gear remained dry.  I also 
like my panniers (Rhode Gear), they've even kept gear dry in modest 
rainfall w/out any baggies.  Good Luck.  Actually the Lincoln Guide 
Service (in Lincoln MA) last summer was selling panniers made out of 
neoprene but needless to say they were costly.
Phi
                
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| 1295.5 | don't get | GOLETA::DELSON_KE |  | Mon Aug 28 1989 16:04 | 9 | 
|  |     The best way to keep your gear dry is to use the heavey duty glad
    bags. There light and very durable in fact I usually take along
    the large zip-lock bags to hold clean socks,t-shirts,etc. In fact
    I have even seen tourers using trash bags for parcas. scotchguard
    is good but if you get caught in strong rain and very wet roads
    even Rhode Gear protected will leak.
    
    kevin
    
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| 1295.6 |  | SX4GTO::HOLT | Robert Holt @ UCS | Tue Aug 29 1989 21:05 | 16 | 
|  |     
    
    On my trip through Czechoslovakia I encountered rain
    3 out of 5 days. 
    
    I used 30 gal. trash bags to pack my clothes. They stayed
    dry inside my Kirtland panniers. 
    
    Had 6 of them (Glad), used 4...
    
    I only packed them as an afterthough but they were a lifesaver
    since they could not be had in Cz and without them my clothes
    would have weighed 10 times as much. 
    
    My 2 spare bags were highly appreciated by some East Germans
    coming into Prague from Cottbus.
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