Conference noted::bicycle

    Call Colorado Cyclist for a catalog or check out there wheel
    add in the back of Bicycle Magazine.  They tell you what you
    need not what they are currently trying to sell.  I'm 225
    and I was braking spokes on long bumpy rides with my 40 hole
    Araya rims.  I picked up a pair of Shimano 600 ex hubs with
    DT spokes and Mavic MA40 rims from Colorado on special for $119
    and haven't had any problems yet.  They also appear to be keeping
    their trueness which was also difficult on my previous wheels.
						Jerry

    	Well, I appreciate Jerry's reply, and I called Colorado
    	Cyclist for their catalog. But, I'd still like some
    	other suggestions about hubs and rims.
    
    	Should I try to get Phil Woods hubs again, or should I
    	go with Dura-Ace or Campy? Or are there hubs out there
    	that would suit my purpose and be cheaper than these
    	two?
    
    	Should I get the Weinmann again, our could I go with
    	something else?
    
    	thanks,
    
    	Scott

    If you do not like playing around with your derailleur, I recommend
    using the same hubs on all wheels.  This will insure the spacing
    is the same and no derailleur adjustments will be needed when swapping
    wheels.  Phil Wood hubs are also very strong.
    
    steve

There's an old saw that says, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."  What 
you have seems to work for you, so stick with it.

I second the comment that Phil hubs are very strong; and the Weinmann 
concave rim has been known since it was first introduced as one of the
strongest recreational clincher rims around. 

- Dick

    	OK, I'll stick with a proven combo. Now, does anyone have
    	an address or phone # for Phil Woods? I talked to Paul
    	Randazzo at the beginning of this year, but he keeps
    	telling me that he hasn't gotten anything in from
    	Phil. I'm not sure whether the problem here is me,
    	Paul, or Phil.
    
    	Scott

    Colorado Cyclist offers Phils hubs with their wheel sets.
    You can tell them what rims and what spokes you want and
    they'll build them up for you, or, if you send them your
    hubs and ~ $95 they'll recondition the bearings and rebuild
    your wheels with the rims and spokes of your choice.
    
    						Jerry

    	A big friend of mine (~6'4", ~235 pounds) has some MA40s built
    with 36 14 guage spokes on Shimano 600(EX?) hubs.  These wheels,
    particularly the rear one, need to be trued roughly every 300-400
    miles.  Because of this he is considering getting a 40/42 spoke wheel.
    	Are 36 spokes really insufficient for a 235 pound rider.  I
    thought more spokes were used primarily for tandems and heavily
    loaded touring
    
    /Nick

    The number of spokes and your weight is not the main consideration.
    I am about 180 pounds and regularly ride on a 32 rear and 24 front.
    The way the wheels are ridden ( looking for every pot hole, banging
    RR tracks, etc) will wreck the wheels quicker then the riders weight.
    Also, if the wheels are being retrued that often, then the balance
    of the tension is probably shot and the wheels should be retensioned
    by a shop with lots of experience building wheels. 
    I bought a new set of wheels about 3 years ago and could not keep
    the rear straight.  Finally, I had them unlaced and retensioned
    and then have been fine ever since.
    
    Quinn
    
    ps.  A person that heavey should also be careful about the tires
    he rides, 19mm most likely would not be a good choice for every
    day riding

    	RE: 933.7
    
    	Nick,
    
    	I ride 36 hole, 3-cross front and rear. I am 6'6" and
    	250+. I very seldom have to retrue my wheels. Of course,
    	he may ride more than me, and faster, but I've had very
    	little trouble. Still using Phil Woods Hubs and Weinmann
    	concave rims.
    
    	Scott

    RE: .-1
    
    I still have one Weinmann concave rim left (with about 80000
    miles on it, front wheel), and they are the most trouble-free,
    bulletproof rims I've owned.  If one could only find new ones!
    
    -john  (130pounds, but more than that on tour)