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| 2329.1 | try again | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Consistently inconsistent | Wed Oct 12 1994 13:43 | 13 | 
|  |     Hi,
    I have recently taken delivery of a Cavalier CDX 1.7TD and am a little
    concerned about it's running temperature.  It never seem to get that
    hot (the gauge always shows <90 degrees).  Is this usual for TD engines
    or should I be getting this sorted??  Surely the engine is not
    performing at its best if it consistently runs cool.?  Or is this
    different for diesel engines?
    Thanks,
    Paul.
    
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| 2329.2 | Sounds Typical to me | TRUCKS::MORRIS_D |  | Wed Oct 12 1994 13:53 | 8 | 
|  |     Once hot, the temperature guage in my 1.7TD remains in the lower
    quarter of the dial. My old 2.0L cavvy exhibited the same
    characteristics. Then, stick it in a traffic jam and watch the guage
    rise (until the elctric fan cuts in).
    
    No, I would say you have a typical Cavalier there. 
    
    Dave   
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| 2329.3 |  | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Wed Oct 12 1994 14:17 | 6 | 
|  |     This is definately normal behaviour. My Cav TD also runs normal at
    just below 90�. Mind you when pulling a caravan it soon hots up.
    
    Don't worry about it.
    
    Royston
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| 2329.4 |  | PAPERS::CORNE | John Corne | Thu Oct 13 1994 11:27 | 5 | 
|  |     Its not just cavaliers - my Pug 405 TD does the same - till it gets
    some welly...(or no welly at all - on the M4 yesterday not going
    anywhere fast at all :-(
    
    Jc
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| 2329.5 |  | PLAYER::BROWNL | Coito ergo sum | Thu Oct 13 1994 13:42 | 3 | 
|  |     Same here. Mine 405 TD estate generally stays around 80�C
    
    Cheers, Laurie.
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| 2329.6 | Cool runnings - standard on diesels ? | BRUMMY::WALLACE_J |  | Mon Oct 17 1994 12:49 | 2 | 
|  |     My Peugeot 306 TD is also a real cool car, never gone over 85 yet.
    (Degrees, that is).
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| 2329.7 | What do you think of it Paul? | WELSWS::BOURNEJ | Now 2 grandsons - Timothy & Joshua | Tue Oct 18 1994 17:33 | 7 | 
|  |     Paul,
    
    Mine also runs at 90 degrees!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
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| 2329.8 |  | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Tue Oct 18 1994 17:36 | 4 | 
|  |     What temp do petrol engines normally run at as I didn't think 90� was
    particularly 'cool'.
    
    Royston
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| 2329.9 | Sounds about right to me | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Wed Oct 19 1994 10:30 | 7 | 
|  |     
    I think 90 (where'd you get that little degree sign from I ain't got
    one! 8*) ) is about normal I seem to remember thermostats in the low to mid
    eighties, but they tend to run them a bit hotter these days to get the
    emissions right.
    
    Richard
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| 2329.10 | Modern engines run hotter | PIECES::ALCOR::RUSLING | Place holder for NOTES | Wed Oct 19 1994 11:14 | 9 | 
|  | 
	Yes, modern engines do run warmer than older engines.  I read
	this in the Kenlowe fan literature when I fitted one to the
	Marlin.  That's why more modern cars have a higher pressure
	rating on their radiator cap's than old ones (eg my MG).  I 
	presume that the engine is happy because of advances in 
	machining and oil technology.
	Dave
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| 2329.11 | To get degree sign =>  � | VANGA::KERRELL | DECUS UK - IT User Group of the Year '94 | Wed Oct 19 1994 12:21 | 9 | 
|  | >(where'd you get that little degree sign from I ain't got one! 8*)
Compose ^0
or 
Compose 0^
Dave.
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| 2329.12 |  | COMICS::PARRY | Trevor Parry | Wed Oct 19 1994 17:32 | 7 | 
|  |     How do you know the engine runs at 90 degrees ?  My engine runs really
    really hot cos it has lots of little explosions in it :-) However, the
    temperature of the water is 90 somethings according to a little needle
    in one of the displays on the dashboard.
    
    tp   (p for pedantic)
    
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| 2329.13 |  | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Wed Mar 20 1996 10:17 | 13 | 
|  |     Have any Cavalier TD drivers ever come across this problem:
    
    When I'm accelerating, and generally pushing the engine in lower gears,
    a very odd noise comes up from the engine.  It sounds like dry leaves
    rattling around in the ventilation system, thats the  only way I can
    think of describing it.  I've checked through the engine, and I can't
    find any obvious problems.  I even managed to duplicate the noise 
    when revving the engine with the car stationary.  
    
    Hmmm
    
    Mikef
    
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| 2329.14 |  | VANGA::KERRELL | salva res est | Wed Mar 20 1996 12:42 | 6 | 
|  | re.13:
My TD is far too noisy to notice a sound like dry leaves!
Unhelpfully,
Dave.
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| 2329.15 |  | COMICS::CORNEJ | What's an Architect? | Mon Apr 01 1996 14:48 | 4 | 
|  |     Its the soot settling on the car behind :-)
    
    Jc
    
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