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| 2328.1 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Wed Oct 12 1994 15:22 | 21 |
| Well I'm surprised you haven't had any replies yet (where are all you
armchair mechanics!).
I'll have a stab anyway.
First off these are symtoms of vapourised petrol so you could be on the
right track. Does the car have automatic choke ? Try putting your foot
hard down on the accelerator, this may pump some petrol into the carb.
Does the engine bay smell of petrol after a few failed attempts to
start ? If so this would indicate that its flooded in which case too
much fuel is getting through.
I've just done some work on a car with fuels probs that turned out to
be a blocked fuel filter.
Has this always been a problem or just since the service ? Maybe if you
supply more history of the problem you'll get some more ideas.
Royston
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| 2328.2 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Wed Oct 12 1994 15:36 | 9 |
| My dad had a same problem. Sure enough, automatic choke was knackered.
I'd say it's almost definately the fueling which affects this hot
starting problem. There are other causes, I'm sure, but it's your best
bet. Maybe when it was serviced somebody did something wrong - no-ones
perfect, y'know, even Ford machanics ;-)
Hope you get it sorted.
Dan
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| 2328.3 | Auto Choke | BLKPUD::ROWEM | Frank Gamballi's Trousers! | Wed Oct 12 1994 17:18 | 5 |
| I used to have escort cvh's of that sort of age when with a previous
company and several had this prob which was due to the autochoke.
I don't know what they did to fix it, but any ford garage should
be familiar with it.....
Matt.
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| 2328.4 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Wed Oct 12 1994 17:19 | 1 |
| Fix : replace it, or put in a manual choke.
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| 2328.5 | yep 4 sure | WARFUT::HEROND | | Thu Oct 13 1994 10:50 | 5 |
| Yes the fix is to replace the choke with a manual one,
Cost aproxx �35.00 about 8 years ago.
I must say I was glad to see the back of that car though ??
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| 2328.6 | RICH Mixture is at fault OK | ESSB::DOODY | | Thu Oct 13 1994 17:18 | 3 |
| rich mixture + COLD engine = START
" + HOT " = WONT START
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| 2328.7 | thanks | RDGENG::CLAYTON | | Fri Oct 14 1994 11:54 | 8 |
| The escort still has this problem. it has an manual choke on the carb
and the mixture was set up at the mot station " I should think the co
is quite low on an excort 1.3 non cvh. I think I will end up getting
a replacement carb for it.
Thanks Richard
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| 2328.8 | | FORTY2::HOWELL | Just get to the point... | Fri Oct 14 1994 12:01 | 10 |
| CO content rarely should differ between engines, no matter what make or
capacity. Having said that, it doesn't mean there's a set value for
every 1.3 x-flow Escort engine, because of course every engine is never
perfect. Plus some engines will be appreciably different (ie. diesels,
funny-car V8's running on alchohol, tuned engines, etc....!).
A new carb will probably sort this problem out, or else (if you fancy
doing it) a thorough re-build of the existing one :-l
Have fun!
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| 2328.9 | FixOrRepairDaily. | KIRKTN::GBRUCE | | Sat Oct 15 1994 10:17 | 13 |
| It definetely sounds like the carb.I had an Escort Ghia 1.6(87)and it
had the same symptoms,it would run okay then splutter a bit,then
sometimes break down in transit.It also wouldn't start,after running
perfectly just before I parked it.
I took it along to get 'tuned' and they found some crap in the jets of
the carb.,they replaced them then it seemed alright.
It broke down about 1 mile away from the 'John Wayne Tuning centre'.
Anyway Mr RAC came and he said my coil was the culprit,so I borrowed a
new one to see if it would cure the problem.
It didn't,so I took of the carb and carried out a rebuild and clean,and
it ran brillianty after that.
Sorry this was a bit long winded but it might save you shelling out
cash on a new(second hand-hard to find)carb.
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| 2328.10 | Perhaps the Condenser? | ROCKS::ARCHERG | What's another word for Thesaurus? | Wed Nov 02 1994 16:01 | 24 |
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Hello,
Well what I know about cars you could write on a pin head!
But...(and sorry if I'm rat hole-ing).. I had an old Marina once.
It was my first car after I passed my test.
It had this annoying problem of not startng when hot. Bloody annoying
when you've driven for hours, pull into a petrol station and after
filling up find the thing won't start!.
After much mucking about with carbs and fuel and fuel pumps I found the
problem was the Condenser.
Don't know if your Escort has "electronic points" or not, but the cost
of a condenser is much cheaper than a carb..!!
You might even be able to ..er um.."accquire" one from a scrap yard!
Regards,
Graham
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| 2328.11 | Broke Choke? | JANSKI::JOCONNOR | Somebody else did it and ran away. | Wed Nov 02 1994 16:07 | 5 |
| It is possible that the choke mech is broken/stiff. So that even with
the choke knob in, the butterfly is still closed.
John O'C
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| 2328.12 | old Ford Carb ? | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Thu Nov 03 1994 15:08 | 13 |
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...if this is the standard type of carb fitted to Fords, with the
heated manifold, it could just be fuel vapourisation (at least I think
that's what it's called). I had a similar problem with an old Cortina
once, arrived at a Petrol station on the day I bought it only to find
it wouldn't start after filling up ! luckily the attendant there had
seen the problem before, you just floor the accelerator and turn the
key - worked every time.
Graham
BTW, if this doesn;t work my money would be on the condenser...
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