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| 1647.1 |  | MARVIN::RUSLING | Hastings Upper Layers Project Leader | Wed Jan 08 1992 15:48 | 6 | 
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	A chattering sound could well be the splash guards and they're very
	easy to check.  If anything in the brakes is loose you tend to get 
	clunks (heavier sound).
	Dave
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| 1647.2 | Must be the shim ! | JGODCL::SHERLOCK | The Yorkshire Republican | Wed Jan 08 1992 15:50 | 8 | 
|  |     Hello namesake,
                  I think it *must* be the "thin metal splash guard", this
    is commonly known as an "anti-chatter shim" that's missing, the
    mechanics probably forgot to replace it when you had your brakes done.
    
    Good Luck
    
    Tim
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| 1647.3 |  | PERKY::RUTTER | Rut The Nut | Wed Jan 08 1992 17:09 | 21 | 
|  | >>                  I think it *must* be the "thin metal splash guard", this
>>    is commonly known as an "anti-chatter shim" that's missing, the
    
    I would have thought the 'splash guard' referred to was actually
    just that, for keeping dirt/stones/water off of the back of the disc.
    
    The anti-squeal/anti-chatter shim is something else, which certainly
    may have been missed out by the mechanics doing brake work.
    
    On brakes that I have worked on, the splash/dirt guard is normally
    not touched when changing brake pads, since it is at the 'back' of
    the disc, held on behind the hub etc.
    
    
    As for the noise, possibly related to the brake pad change, but
    just as likely to be something else.
    
    How about track rod ends, or any suspension joints/bushings ?
    Simply bouncing the vehicle is not so likely to show these up.
    
    J.R.
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| 1647.4 |  | HEWIE::CHRIS | My plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby Bio | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:50 | 7 | 
|  |     
    
    The same thing happened on my Santana a bit back, I was panicking like
    mad, but everyone I spoke to about it told me not to worry as it wasn't
    that important (I dunno if this is right though!)...the rattle that is.
    
    Chris.
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| 1647.5 | splish-splash I'm having a both | CRISPY::GERRYT |  | Thu Jan 09 1992 12:54 | 11 | 
|  |     Thanks for the advice so far.
    Yes, I believe the splash-guards are as .3 pointed out, and are
    attached to the front 'hub' assembly behind the disc brake-pad housing.
    
    My initial feelings are that the sprung anti'chatter'plates may have
    been put back incorrectly.
    By the way, Mileage (genuine) is 47,000
    
    Will let you know after the weekend.
    
    tim
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| 1647.6 | As I thought! | DUCK::GERRYT |  | Tue Jan 14 1992 12:21 | 11 | 
|  |     Yes, it's just as I thought....the bottom anti-chatter spring wasn't in
    place! In fact, it wasn't anywhere!
    Have got a replacement pressed metal (not bent wire, as VW don't supply
    them any more!) bottom spring, and it's a lot better, though not
    perfect. At least it doesn't make the noise it was doing.
    
    Off to the scrappy to see if I can salvage a few wire type spares for the 
    future . Does anyone know if the Audi's are fitted with similar wire
    springs?
    
    Tim
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