Conference terri::cars_uk

Wasn't Jordan in F3000?  Did they drop that series in order to go to F1?

Dave

    Fast Eddie sold his F3000 team at the end of last year to raise the $$$
    to get into F1. If memory serves, Camel used this opportunity to drop
    out of F3000 sponsorship as well.
    
    Paul

    Needless to say: potential champion is Allan McNish

    Does anyone have any dates for the early UK F3000 meetings ?
    
    steve
    

    Got them at home - will post them here tomorrow unless I get beaten to
    it.
    
    Paul

    GB F3000 Championship
    
    Mar 29	Oulton Park
    Apr 28	Donington
    May 12	Brands Hatch
    Jun 30	Brands Hatch
    Jul 21	Oulton Park
    Aug 4	Snetterton
    Aug 11	Thruxton
    Sep 1	Donington
    Sep 8	Brands Hatch
    Sep 22	Silverstone
    Oct 13	Donington
    
    
    British Round of FIA European Championship
    
    August 18th Brands Hatch

    re.last
    thanks very much 
    
    steve
    

    paul, have you also got the list of teams and drivers ?

    In addition to Alan McNish, who is tipped as top runners for '91?  Who
    will give McNish a run for the championship and who can win races?  Any
    crystal balls out there?
    
    Paul
    

    
    Damon Hill will run rings around the man with a constant cold! :^)
    
    Mark

1st race this Sunday at Vallelunga.

38 entrants at this point !

 1 DAMS			Alan McNish		Lola T91/50 Mugen
 2 DAMS			Laurent Aiello		Lola T91/50 Mugen
 3 GA Motorsport	Michael Bartels		Ralt RT23 DFV
 4 GA Motorsport	Thierry Delubac		Ralt RT23 DFV
 5 First		Giovanni Bonnano	Reynard 91D DFV
 6 First		Jean-Denis Deletraz	Reynard 91D DFV
 7 First		Eric H�lary		Reynard 91D DFV
 8 Paul Stewart		Marco Apicella		Lola T91/50 Mugen
 9 Paul Stewart		Paul Stewart		Lola T91/50 Mugen
12 Forti Corse		Emmanuele Naspetti	Lola T91/50 DFV
13 Forti Corse		Fabrizio Giovanardi	Lola T91/50 DFV
14 Middlebridge		Damon Hill		Lola T91/50 DFV
15 Middlebridge		Vincenzo Sospiri	Lola T91/50 DFV
16 Roni			Fernando Plata		Ralt RT23 DFV
17 Roni			David Brabham		Ralt RT23 DFV
18 Apomatox		Paul Belmondo		Reynard 91D DFV
19 Apomatox		Andrea Chiesa		Reynard 91D DFV
20 Crypton		Roberto Colciago	Reynard 91D DFV
21 Crypton		Fabrizio Barbazza	Reynard 91D DFV
22 Crypton		Giovanni Lavaggi	Reynard 91D DFV
23 Cobra		Paolo Della Piane	Reynard 91D Mugen
24 Cobra		Alain Menu		Reynard 91D Mugen
25 Marko RSM		Karl Wendlinger		Reynard 91D DFV
26 Galaxy		Philippe Gache		Lola T91/50 DFV
27 Vortex		Heinz Harald Frantzen	Lola T91/50 Mugen
28 Vortex		Michael Schumacher	Lola T91/50 Mugen
29 Pacific		Antonio Tamburini	Reynard 91D Mugen
30 Pacific		Christian Fittipaldi	Reynard 91D Mugen
31 3001 Inter 		Jean-Marc Gounon	Ralt RT23 DFV
32 3001 Inter		Andrea Montermini	Ralt RT23 DFV
33 Barone Rampante	Alessandro Zanardi	Reynard 91D DFV
34 Barone Rampante	Giuseppe Bugatti	Reynard 91D DFV
35 Junior Team		Vittorio Zoboli		Reynard 91D Judd
36 Junior Team		Gabriel Furlan		Reynard 91D Judd
37 Team Fama		Nino Fama		Reynard 90D DFV
38 Diwheel		Fabiano Vandone		Leyton 90B Judd
40 Pavesi Team		Felice Tedeschi		Reynard 91D DFV
41 GJ Motorsport	Giovanna Amati		Reynard 91D DFV

38 entrants?!!! This is clearly going to lead to accidents and disasters.
Someone ought to tell JMB - its clearly time to change the regulations to get
the numbers down to more manageable proportions - judging by other categories
of car racing, around 8 entrants is the optimum number

:-) :-) :-)

Steve

	The Birmingham 'Superprix' is now a thing of the past. Subsidised
	for 5 years by local politicians intent on burnishing brums image
	it never really caught on and always lost money.

	Personally I thought that the circuit was really bad, and the
	meeting was somewhat counter-productive.

	-John

	Oh and another thing. Anybody know what happened to the traditional 
	Thruxton easter meeting this year?

	-John

    
    Re .14
    
    John,
    
    There was a race on Easter Monday. Formula 3 topped the bill.
    
    If you were expecting an F3000 race you are long out of touch. There
    was only 1 F3000 race held on an Easter Monday and that must have been
    5 (at least) years ago. Prior to that Thruxton ALWAYS held an F2 race
    over Easter (practice Saturday/race Monday) and that was the meeting
    that attracted the most spectators. (Memories of Stefan Bellof very
    sideways in Maurer out of the chicane.)
    
    Strangely Thruxton seems able to attract more spectators for a club
    weekend now than it ever did in those days. It seemed that the crowd
    only turned up for the one meeting of the year, whilst they come on 
    a regular basis (rain or shine) these days.
    
    Mark

	I was there last year, or was it perhaps the year before, no
	it was last year, and the British F3000 championship was on.

	So there!

	-John

    
    Ah, right now the British championship is a different matter! :^)
    
    Was there really an BF3000 meeting at Thruxton last year/year before at
    Easter? These meetings all merge into one another! :^)
    
    Oh well, FYI the BF3000 meeting is on August 11th (I think, certainly
    August), this year.
    
    Mark

F3000 Championship 1991 - 1st round - Vallelunga 14 april

Qualifications: no sign of Alan McNish in the first 10rows (?)
                Apicella and the First drivers don't appear either
		best laps by Christian Fittipaldi / Zanardi

Results

1. Zanardi	1h06'05"152
2. Fittipaldi	+ 11"648
3. Tamburini	+ 15"724
4. Hill		+ 17"785
5. Bugatti	+ 31"857
6. Menu		+ 36"031

    
    Good to see Damon Hill FINISH! and nice to see that Alain Menu
    has got a semi-decent drive at last! 
    
    Mark
    
    PS Alan who?
    

    
    In case it goes unmentioned, Alan McNish and his team-mate were second
    and third from slowest practicers. With the popularity of F3000 this 
    secured them a solid non-qualification.
    
    After promising testing this came as a great blow to both drivers and
    team. Still, don't forget that Hill failed to qualify for his first
    race last season and then bounced back in the second to lead
    comfortably until a minor fault waylaid him.
    
    Talking of Hill, the report in MN says that if the race had gone the
    full distance he would almost certainly of been in with a chance of 
    victory as, of all the runners, only his tyres were in good condition.
    
    The race took part in two halves after an accident. Oh dear, looks like
    the F3000 boys are at it already.
    
    Mark 
    
    

    Yes, Alan McNish had a hard time in Rome. During the 1st testing
    session he almost destroyed the car. Second day he struggled with
    settings and tyres.... DAMS teammate Aiello (F3000 beginner) qualified
    on 2nd row which means that McNish could have managed pole position.
    I think it was just bad luck.

    
    Oh, I must have mis-read something, thinking that his team-mate didn't
    qualify. Just goes to show what a no-hoper the man-with-the-cold is
    doesn't it, Paul? :^)
    
    Mark

Pau F3000 GP  -  20 May 1991

Another no-show for both DAMS drivers (McNish, Aiello). Haven't got details
of the race. Friends said it was a great race and a well deserved victory for
Jean-Marc Gounon over Christian Fittipaldi. Pole man Zanardi had left the race
early.

	1. Gounon	Ralt
	2. Fittipaldi	Reynard
	3. Helary	Reynard
	4. Apicella	Lola
	5. Giovanardi	Lola
	6. Menu		Reynard	
	7. Brabham	Ralt
	....
	13. McNish	Lola

Current F3000 drivers championship

	1. Fittipaldi	12
	2. Gounon	 9  (winner Pau)
	   Zanardi	 9  (winner Vallelunga)
	4. Helary	 4
	   Tamburini	 4
	6. Apicella	 3
	   Hill		 3
	   .......

    Mr Saxby,
    
    Are you looking? Seems like I may have to re-assess my opinion on the
    man with the cold ;-)
    
    Paul

    
    You may say that. I couldn't possibly comment...:^)
    
    Mark

    I don't have the full report. Just the results. Once again McNish does
    not appear ! Christian Fittipaldi got pole position on the grid, won
    the race and managed fastest lap. He's on his way to the title ! A new
    F1 champ ? like Uncle Emerson ?

F3000 - Jerez - 9-Jun-1991

1. Chr. Fittipaldi	Reynard
2. Zanardi		Reynard
3. Montermini		Ralt
4. Tamburini		Reynard
5. Wendlinger		Reynard
6. Gounon		Ralt
7. Aiello		Lola	(where is Allan McNish ?)
8. D. Hill		....
 ....

F3000 International Championship after Jerez

1. Fittipaldi	21
2. Zanardi	15
3. Gounon	10
4. Tamburini	 7
5. Helary	 4
   Montermini	 4
7. Apicella	 3
   Hill		 3
 .....

1991 F3000 championship 4th round, MUGELLO (Italy) 23-Jun
---------------------------------------------------------

    At last ! Allan McNish has scored his first points of the year !
    Pole position, fastest lap and victory : ZANARDI
    
 1. Zanardi	Reynard-Mugen	(Il Barone Rampante)
 2. Apicella	Lola-Mugen	(Paul Stewart)
 3. Fittipaldi	Reynard-Mugen
 4. Sospiri	Lola-Cosworth
 5. McNish	Lola-Mugen	(DAMS)
 6. Frentzen	Lola-Mugen
 7. Tamburini	Reynard-Mugen
 8. Giovanardi	Reynard-Cosworth
 9. Brabham	Ralt-Cosworth
10. Gounon	Ralt-Cosworth
11. Montermini	Ralt-Cosworth
12. Menu	Reynard-Cosworth
  ...


Championship position after 4 rounds
------------------------------------

 1. Fittipaldi	25
 2. Zanardi	24
 3. Gounon	10
 4. Apicella	 9
 5. Tamburini	 7
 6. H�lary	 4
    Montermini	 4
 8. Hill	 3
    Sospiri	 3
10. Bugatti	 2
    Giovanardi   2
    McNish	 2
    Menu	 2
    Wendlinger	 2
15. Frentzen	 1


Next round Enna

Enna-Pergusa results. 5th round of the F3000 championship
---------------------------------------------------------

 1. Naspetti	Reynard
 2. Apicella	Lola 
 3. Bugatti	Reynard
 4. Tamburini	Reynard
 5. Frentzen	Lola
 6. Gounon	Ralt
 7. Furlan	Reynard
 8. McNish	Lola
.....
11. Hill
12. Stewart
.....


F3000 Championship 
------------------

1. Fittipaldi	25
2. Zanardi	24
3. Apicella	15
4. Gounon	11
5. Tamburini	10
6. Naspetti	 9
7. Bugatti	 6
......

    Very sad news.
    
    Paul Warwick, who has been mopping up the British F3000 championship,
    was killed yesterday when his car crashed into the Armco and burst into
    flames at Oulton Park. He was posthumously awarded the race win
    (presumably they stopped it and applied the positions from the previous
    lap).
    
    This is very sad, as Derek's brother had finally got the equipment
    needed to show his talent to the full and was making the other F3000
    runners look very silly by winning every race so far. Unfortunately,
    he'll never get the chance to prove himself against the European F3000
    boys.
    
    As an aside, this makes me wonder about the safety of F3000 cars given
    that they have to built down to a price (to a certain extent) and that 
    over the last few seasons there have been a number of very serious
    accidents involving these types of car, which have led to injuries.
    
    Mark

    Yesterday was quite traumatic. We were timng at Lydden and late in the
    day there were two quite bad shunts. Firstly a 2CV (why don't they ban
    these?) went into the barrier exactly where a 2CV driver was killed a
    few weeks back, and the driver went off to hospital unconscious, and
    then 2 FF1600's went off at Cheshunts *very* hard, one driver being
    taken off in a full brace. To come back and see the news about Paul
    Warwick was almost too much. 
    
    Paul was set for great things, and we had seen him drive quite a few
    times, including a great drive for L/House at the B'ham Super Prix last
    year, when we kept up with the leaders after being shunted off and
    restarting last. He'll be very much missed.
    
    Given that Senna survived a huge shunt on Thursday, one can only wonder
    at the strength of the F1 cars, but it also shows the safety of the
    circuits. I've never been to Oulton Park, but Lydden is frightening
    with the lack of run off.
    
    Paul

    Re Lydden
    
    Mental error - the FF1600 shunt was at Paddock not Cheshunts. Paddock
    gravel trap is totally inadequate.
    
    Paul

    	Been there - liked Lydden a lot. Got a couple of 3rds in the
    Formula Vee *many* moons ago! Managed to keep it on the black stuff,
    though, luckily.
    
    	It's always hard when a driver is seriously injured or dies in he
    "lesser" formulae - you sort of accept it easier in the more
    professional classes. He was definately one of the up-and-coming men.
    
    Colin

    Autosport this week pay tribute to Paul Warwick. It is suspected that
    the cause of the accident was front suspension failure. An Eyewitness
    is reported to have said that one of the front wheels was off the
    ground as Warwick attempted to turn into Knickerbrook. The car went
    head on into the barrier, at almost full speed. Warwick was thrown from
    the car which then burst into flames. The rest I think we all know.
    
    
    
    GArry

    I read something about a rear wheel puncture, just like what happened
    to Senna at Hockenheim ...