| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 785.22 | select cruise control and read a book | RUTILE::SMITH_A | 2 down and 1 to go | Thu Mar 08 1990 14:18 | 10 | 
|  |     I'm driving from Chiswick to High Wycombe for a week at the end
    of the month. Every day, and at 08:00'ish
    
    Is the best route M4 west -> M25 north -> M40 west  ?
    
    Or is the M25 solid around this time ?
    
    
    Yours, in dread,
    Tony
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| 785.23 | Best route I think | UKCSSE::YOUNG | GEOFF YOUNG | Thu Mar 08 1990 15:07 | 15 | 
|  |     
    In my opinion, yes that's the best route.
    
    I think M25 clockwise at that time isn't so bad.
    
    Beware coming up to M40 junction 4 from Marlow direction, as it tends
    to tail back.
    
    Where are you heading in Wycombe? Cos this could mean a different
    route.
    
    Wycombe is a pain in the b** first thing in the morning.
    
    Geoff
    A Wycombe resident.
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| 785.24 | Sorry, hit rewind then play. | RUTILE::SMITH_A | 2 down and 1 to go | Fri Mar 09 1990 08:32 | 19 | 
|  |     Ok, change of plan. I re-checked the joining instructions and the
    venue is at Welwyn Garden City - not High Wycombe (could have sworn
    the original instructions said Wycombe ?)
    
    So next question is can anyone tell me the best route from Chiswick,
    to,
    
                          DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CO. LTD
                          PROGRESS HOUSE
                          THE BOULEVARD
                          WELWYN GARDEN CITY, HERTS
    
    I'll probably go M4 -> M25 -> A1(M) -> nightmare of town planning,
    unless someone knows a better, more direct route.
    
    Thanks, in anticipation.
    
    Tony.
    
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| 785.25 |  | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Fri Mar 09 1990 08:45 | 16 | 
|  |     The route that you suggest (M25 then exit on A1(M)) is probably
    the best. Take the A1 north (Hatfield is a doddle these days with
    the tunnel) and exit off at the Junction AFTER the one that has
    a big garage nearby. Drop doown to the roundabout below the A1,
    take exit 3 sign post to twn centre anf follow that road to the
    end and a Tee junct. Turn Right, then follow that road and eventually
    you'll come out at a big roundabout with the dept store on the right
    and the College on the left. You effectively want to go straight
    on but you'll need to circumnavigate almost the entire circle. After
    the circle the next landmark is a huge pub on the left and then
    you are crossing the railway line via a large bridge. At the junction
    at the bottom of the bridge, turn left, drive past all the industrials
    go under the old Railway bridge and at the top of the rise, turn
    left and watch for the signs.
    
    S'easy, innit?
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| 785.26 | Another way? | DOOZER::JENKINS | Sitting in the hot seat... | Fri Mar 09 1990 18:09 | 13 | 
|  |     
    Re .24 
    You're going from Chiswick to Welwyn?                          
    If you are it seems a long way out of your way to go out of London
    on the M4, North on the M25 and then North again on the A1(M).
    Why not just head north out of Chiswick? Even if you use the North
    Circular, its not far to the M1, which will be clear going north,
    then M25/A1(M).
    
    Richard.
    
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| 785.27 | Thanks for the info. | RUTILE::SMITH_A | 2 down and 1 to go | Fri Mar 09 1990 18:37 | 13 | 
|  |     Thanks .25 and .26,
    
    Re .26
    I wasn't too sure that the Nth Circ. round to the M1 was going to
    be a good bet because of Ealing, Hangar Lane, Stonebridge Park and
    Staines Corner. 
    
    As it's straight out on the M4 from Chiswick I thought that the
    motorways might me less stop/start.
    
    Agree that Nth Circ route is more direct but is it quicker ?
    
    Tony.
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| 785.28 | A405/A414 variation | VOGON::KAPPLER | John Kappler | Mon Mar 12 1990 08:59 | 8 | 
|  |     Another variation....
    
    I usually go from M25 (at M1 intersection) to A405, A414 to Hatfield,
    thence A1(M). This avoids heading south on the M25 to South Mimms, and
    is defintely shorter....... However, I only tend to do this at
    weekends, so I've no idea whether it's quicker at commuter times.
    
    Anyone from WEL care to enlighten us?
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| 785.29 | Keep off M25 North West quadrant! | CHEST::RUSSELL | I survived the Crescent fire. | Mon Mar 12 1990 11:38 | 8 | 
|  |     Don't use the M25 between J18 and J20 - there are major readworks
    starting there today!!
    
    If you're lucky, you won't get help up, but if you're unlucky,
    you'll need a flask and some sandwiches!!
    
    Peter.
    
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| 785.30 | Xmas hold-ups? | BONNET::HARDY |  | Mon Dec 17 1990 13:13 | 15 | 
|  |     Chaps,
    
    I'll be taking the following route at Xmas. Can anyone advise of current
    roadworks/alternatives etc?
    
    A2(m) Dover to London
    M25, M1, M6 to Manchester
    M62, A1(m)	to Newcastle.
    
    I was thinking of trying Dover, Folkstone, then up to M25. Any
    comments?
    
    thanks 
    
    peter
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| 785.31 | When exactly are you travelling? | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Middle-aged Mutant Hero Turtle (UK option) | Mon Dec 17 1990 16:54 | 13 | 
|  | If you can avoid peak periods, you'll be OK.
Incidentally, do you have to go to Manchester; there is a direct route to
Newcastle.....
Peak periods will probably be Friday afternoon/evening, Dec 21st,
Christmas eve afternoon/evening, (24th).
I reckon the rest of the traffic should be fairly reasonable.
Most major roadworks are stopped during the Christmas period.
Peter.
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| 785.32 | Now that's what I call timimg! | BONNET::HARDY |  | Tue Dec 18 1990 07:53 | 14 | 
|  |     Peter
    "Peak periods will be Friday afternoon/evening, Dec 21st,
    Christmas eve afternoon/evening, (24th)"
    It's Dover to Toddington on Friday evening and Toddington/Manchester/
    Newcastle (unavoidable route) on Christmas eve.
    Oh well, I'll just have to dig out the old Christmas Carols tape, buy
    some mince pies and tie some tinsel to the aerial.
    thanks  for the quick reply
    
    Peter    
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| 785.33 | M25 -> Portsmouth, which way ? | UPROAR::WATSONR |  | Mon Mar 25 1991 08:04 | 9 | 
|  | 
    To echo the base note, I'm driving from the M25 to Portsmouth on Tuesday
    night (19:00hrs @ M25) and in a Mini. Which is a better route, M3 or A3
    bearing in mind that my cruising speed will be approx 65-70mph ?
    What's the A3 like ? Dual carriageway, roadworks, lots of towns, best
    avoided ?
Ross
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| 785.34 |  | CHEST::RUTTER | Rut-The-Nut | Mon Mar 25 1991 08:53 | 28 | 
|  | �    night (19:00hrs @ M25) and in a Mini. Which is a better route, M3 or A3
    
    In general, I would have thought the M3 quicker, but I tend to avoid it.
    
    The difference in time may be accounted for by spending more or less
    time on the M25, depending upon which junction you reach first.
    
�    What's the A3 like ? Dual carriageway, roadworks, lots of towns, best
�    avoided ?
    
    From the M25 down, the A3 is fine up to Guildford.  Around Guildford,
    things can get a bit slower, but not a problem after 7pm.
    
    Below Guildford, there are a few delays, but no real problems
    (although I have not driven that part of it lately).
    
    From Hindhead to Petersfield there are three stretches of dual c'way.
    
    From Petersfield down (the bit I use every day) it is dual carriageway
    over 'Butser Hill', when it then becomes the A3(M), which leads into
    the M27 and the Portsmouth area.
    
    As I said, I avoid the M3 (I dislike the road, plus A33 roadworks)
    and use the A3, even though it goes through some towns.  All depends
    on what sort of roads you prefer, the importance of journey time and
    which of the two roads you are nearest to.
    
    J.R.
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| 785.35 | A3 beats M3 by a long set of cones .... | SBPUS4::BEAGLE | Where Beagle's Dare ... | Mon Mar 25 1991 09:57 | 17 | 
|  |     for the extra time stuck in the A33 mess and the potential hold-up
    there caused by various accidents, the A3 route is far far preferable.
    
    Depending on where you hit the M25 the A3 can be the shortest route
    too.
    
    We regularly use the A3 to go and visit Peter's mum, and recently it
    has got much better as there is a long stretch of DC opened just south
    of guildford...
    
    Peterfield is a bit of a mess at the moment as they are doing work on a
    by-pass, but it's nowhere near as bad as the A33 section at the bottom
    of the M3
    
    Have fun
    
    Jane
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| 785.36 | M40-> M6 via M42 best direction? | VOGON::ATWAL | dream out loud | Fri May 22 1992 09:38 | 10 | 
|  | I'm planning on getting to the M6 from the M40 this evening, which is the 
best route around the M42 to get there? I should be there at about 8pm,
but it is a BH weekend so...
If anyone familiar with that area can advise on the best route to take, it
will be appreciated.
thanks,
...Art
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| 785.37 | Shrewsbury to Bangor? | VOGON::KAPPLER | Spontaneity is fine in it's place.... | Thu May 28 1992 21:18 | 10 | 
|  |     Another question......
    
    How long for the A5 journey from Shrewsbury to Bangor?
    
    Tnks,
    
    JfK
    
    (Also posted in GB)
    
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| 785.38 | About as long as a piece of string ;-) | YOROWN::WALTERS | May you never... | Fri May 29 1992 09:02 | 19 | 
|  | John,
	I used to be a Shrewsbury lad and I did the journey on many occasions.
The answer is very much in the title. It really does depend on what time of the
day/week/year you're travelling. On Friday evenings before a Bank Holiday, it 
can take up to 3 hours to get round the Shrewsbury by-pass. After Froncysllte
(where the aqueduct is), getting stuck behind a caravan dooms you to a 50 mph
crawl all the way along the A5 to Betws-y-Coed where if you're lucky it will
turn off !! From there the journey to Bangor is so scenic travelling between 
the mountains ranges of the Carneddau and the Glyders that you don't worry 
about being in solid traffic until your engine boils over !!
Seriously though, I'd be very surprised if you did the trip in any less than 
two hours. Friday evenings are not a great time to travel and watch out for
the "West Midlands Fortnight" when all the industry in the West Midlands takes
a fortnight holiday, and travels up to North Wales on the Friday evening.
You can avoid the Shrewsbury by-pass by going through the town centre from the
East end of the A5 - this is normally pretty-much trouble free.
Chris
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| 785.39 | Weekday morning | VOGON::KAPPLER | Spontaneity is fine in it's place.... | Fri May 29 1992 09:25 | 5 | 
|  |     Tnks for that. Journey is planned for next Weds (Jun 3rd) morning.
    
    I have to be in Bangor for either 11am or 2pm (yet to be decided!)
    
    JfK
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| 785.40 | Ah yes, I know it well | BLKPUD::WILLIAMSH |  | Fri May 29 1992 12:45 | 16 | 
|  |     Or, you could wait a couple of months for the Shrewsbury by-pass by-pass
    to finish being built.   seriously, the bypass got so clogged
    up that they've built a new one to bypass it!
    
    also, a lot depends on how you get to Shrewsbury. There's road works on
    the m54 Telford at the moment as well as the dreaded m5/m6 bit through
    Birmingham. if coming up the m5 you could try the way I used to use of 
    M5 north of Worcester - Kiddiminster - Bridgnorth - Shrewsbury. it
    takes about an hour.  
    
    on a clear run, Shrewsbury to Bangor takes 2 hours, if you're not
    distracted by the scenery!
    
    Huw. (Who's now moved closer to Wales, coz the Basingstoke -> N.Wales
    run used to P**s me off in summer)
    
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| 785.41 |  | RONNO::jeffery | I do not think you wanted to do that! | Fri May 29 1992 14:27 | 3 | 
|  | Autoroute gives the following:
1hr 58 m 92 Miles.
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| 785.42 | Reading --> Keswick | FIZGIG::BIGGINM | Interplanetary� Explorer Extraordinaire! | Fri Aug 07 1992 13:46 | 6 | 
|  |     
    Does any one know a decent route to Keswick in Cumbria?
    
    Cheers,
    
    	MattB
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| 785.43 |  | MARVIN::RUSLING | Dave Rusling REO2 G/E9 830-4380 | Fri Aug 07 1992 14:06 | 10 | 
|  | 
	It depends what you mean by "decent".  If you mean quick, then I
	take the M40 to Birmingham and then the M? (5 or 6, I can never remember 
	which one, 'till I look at the map) to just east of Windermere.
	The last time I took that route (in May), we set off at 8.30, were
	having lunch in the Mortal Man in Troutbeck at 12.30 and part way
	up Skidaw by 2.30...
	Dave
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| 785.44 |  | NEWOA::SAXBY | Born again reincarnationist | Fri Aug 07 1992 14:54 | 9 | 
|  |     
    I'd second that route, although you can get stuck in traffic,
    especially around Brum.
    
    We managed a similar time to Dave, from Wasdale to home (allowing for the 
    extra bits each end!). On the other hand you can easily loose another
    two hours on the trip!
    
    Mark
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| 785.45 | Pretty quick | BAHTAT::LECTER::SUMMERFIELD | This is daft | Fri Aug 07 1992 15:58 | 9 | 
|  |     From Reading,
    
    Head for Oxford.
    A34 --> M40
    M40 --> M42 North (or East) 
    M42 --> M6  North
    Turn left at signs for Keswick
    
    Clive
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| 785.46 | PLYMOUTH TO HEATHROW | LISVAX::GRAY |  | Thu Mar 18 1993 08:19 | 9 | 
|  |     How long will it take me to drive from Plymouth to Heathrow at around 9pm or
    5am and which is the best route?
    
    By the way, anybody know if any of Corp rate hotels at Heathrow will
    let me leave my car for 2 days?
    
    I have a Geneva meeting right in the middle of my home leave! AAAARGH!!
                                                                          
    Tks John
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| 785.47 | Fly wtih Brymon? | HEWIE::RUSSELL | So much for Tory promises on taxes! | Thu Mar 18 1993 10:01 | 3 | 
|  | Why not fly Plymouth to Heathrow, and save a lot of hassle?
Peter.
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| 785.48 | Motorway nearly all the way | SUPER7::HUGHESA | Swimming against the tide @#%* | Thu Mar 18 1993 10:36 | 10 | 
|  | 
	The quickest (if very boring) is .....
	A38 to Exeter 
	M5 to Bristol
	M4 to Heathrow
	It should take about three to four hours.
Andy.
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| 785.49 | Try th A303 | KERNEL::RHASKING | Fine time to leave me Loose Wheel | Fri Mar 19 1993 09:15 | 13 | 
|  |     re .46
    
    Or you could try -
    
    A38/M5 to EXETER
    A30 to HONITON
    A303/M3/M25 to HEATHROW
    
    If you use this route then 9pm would be better.
    
    (Been up and down this road for years, its improving all the time)
    
    Rob
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| 785.50 |  | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Mar 22 1993 10:25 | 17 | 
|  | 
	Plymouth to M4 J12 is approx 2.5 hours, A38/M5/M4 if you go at
	85-90 MPH, which of course, you wouldn't   :-), and it's about
	another 25-30 mins to Heathrow if the traffic is average.
	If you leave at 5.00am, then you will be getting to Heathrow at
	about 8.00am................................bad news!!!!!!!
	There are roadwoks at Langley  M4 between J7-6 which are causing 
	bigtime problems on top of the very heavy traffic anyway at this time
	of the morning.
	And don't even think of trying this on a Monday morning.
	Have you thought of flying Brymon airways from Roborough?
	Heather
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| 785.51 |  | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Mar 22 1993 10:28 | 10 | 
|  | 
	Opps,   and M25 is disaster at the moment in the morning, from the
	M3 past the M4 to the M40 junction - there were nasty road reports
	on traffic/roadworks etc this morning.
	I would definately go for the evening, and the A38/M5/M4 route.
	
	Heather
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| 785.52 |  | UPROAR::EVANSG | Gwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade -> DTN 769-8108 | Mon Mar 22 1993 11:25 | 8 | 
|  |     Heather,
    	The roadworks you refer to in .51 aren't too bad northbound in the
    morning and are only between the M4 & the M40.  The main delays in that
    area are always between J17 towards J16 approaching the roadworks from
    the north.
    	I don't know how bad the M4 between J5 & J4 is but there should be
    no problem coming via the M25, although to be sure the original poster
    could come off at J14 and onto the A4 and into Heathrow that way.
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| 785.53 | Speed Limit - N�o compreendo! | LISVAX::GRAY |  | Mon Mar 22 1993 12:46 | 7 | 
|  |     Thanks for all the info. I'd use Brymon but I need the car at Heathrow
    - I'll only be in Plymouth 'cos that's where the Santander ferry goes to. 
    Looks like I'll be going in the evening - the Geneva flight is at 8:00am. Is
    it true that with Portuguese plates I'll be immune to those new cameras?!
    
    
    Rgds John
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| 785.54 | Common Traffic-ticket Market? | IOSG::SHOVE | Dave Shove -- REO2-G/M6 | Mon Mar 22 1993 15:52 | 9 | 
|  |   �  Is
  �  it true that with Portuguese plates I'll be immune to those new cameras?!
   
    With Portugal being in the EEC, I wouldn't count on it!
    
    But seriously, I would have thought the Police would be likely to
    decide it was too much trouble.
    
    D. 
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| 785.55 | Best route Heathrow to Plymouth | GENIE::OREILLY | There's a fish on top of Shandon swears he's Elvis. | Thu Sep 08 1994 13:57 | 21 | 
|  | Hi,
I have to drive from London (Heathrow) to Plymouth on a Sunday evening. 
What's the best route?
Looking at the map there would seem to be 3 possibilities:
1)  M4/M5
2)  M3/A30/A303
3)  M3/A31/A35
2 is the shortest but 1 looks the more reliable. Also how long should it take?
Many thanks,
Paul.
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| 785.56 |  | LARVAE::LINCOLN_J |  | Thu Sep 08 1994 14:05 | 16 | 
|  | 
	IF Friday evening or dark THEN
		1)  M4/M5
	ELSE
	        2) M3/A303
	ENDIF
	Route 2 (there's no A30 involved) is more pleasant and interesting
	but there are still some awkward single carriageway sections.
	-John
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| 785.57 |  | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Thu Sep 08 1994 14:15 | 1 | 
|  |     M4/M5 rough time 4.5 hours, not allowing time for stops
 | 
| 785.58 | From lots of experience!!! | YUPPY::CZERESM |  | Thu Sep 08 1994 14:32 | 14 | 
|  |     Personally,
    
    If you're travelling late in the day ie after about 8.30pm
    i always go M3/A303 since its more entertaining aswell as 
    being the shorter route, theres also little traffic  to hold
    you up on the few single carriageway sections.
                                                                           
    Otherwise i go M4/M5 during the day as the other route tends
    to get jammed with slower traffic esp. during holiday season,
    
    Cheers 
    
    Mark
                                                  
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| 785.59 |  | LARVAE::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, UK S.E. PSC - Workgroup Solutions | Thu Sep 08 1994 15:00 | 5 | 
|  |     Which Sunday??
    May need to check if Stonehenge, Thruxton or any of the other tourist
    sites are busy that day - and so lots of cars about on route 2.
    
    Route 1 is SO BORING.... but it will get you there.
 | 
| 785.60 | More details | GENIE::OREILLY | There's a fish on top of Shandon swears he's Elvis. | Fri Sep 09 1994 08:08 | 9 | 
|  |     Thanks for the replies.
    
    I'll be travelling this route on Sunday 16 Oct leaving Heathrow at
    about 8pm. Assuming route 2 (A303) is ok could I make Plymouth by
    midnight?
    
    
    Thanks,
    Paul.
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| 785.61 |  | GENIE::GOODEJ |  | Fri Sep 09 1994 09:33 | 10 | 
|  |     
    Paul,
    
    	to be fair mate I think you should come clean and admit you'll be
    driving your Reliant Robin...... I reckon you'll make Plymouth around
    11.00 ..... the next morning!! 8-)
    
    JBG
    
    Ps. what are these rumours I'm hearing about you not coming back?? 8-) 
 | 
| 785.62 | 2 routes | WELCLU::KINGI | Don't call me Wayne or Joe | Fri Sep 09 1994 11:03 | 57 | 
|  |     
    
    Auto-route says,,
    
    
    Time	Instruction	Road	Dist	Dir	Towards
    00:00	DEPART Heathrow Airport (Gtr London) on the	Vehicle
    Tunnel	1/2 mile	N 	
    00:01	Go onto		Unnamed	1/4 mileN 	(M4 J4A)
    00:02	At M4 J4A bear left onto	M4	103 miles	N 	
    (M4 J4)
    01:42	At M4 J20 M5 J15 turn off onto	M5	82 miles	SW	
    Avonmouth
    02:58	At M5 J31 go onto	A38	40 miles	SW	
    (Newton Abbot)
    03:38	Turn off onto	A374	4 miles	S 	Plymouth
    03:42	ARRIVE Plymouth (Devonshire)				
    
    229 Miles Total
    
    Or/
    
    Time	Instruction	Road	Dist	Dir	Towards
    00:00	DEPART Heathrow Airport (Gtr London) on the	Vehicle
    Tunnel	1/2 mile	N 	
    00:01	Go onto	Unnamed	1/4 mile	N 	(M4 J4A)
    00:02	At M4 J4A bear left onto	M4	3 miles	N 	(M4
    J4)
    00:06	At M4 J4b M25 J15 turn off onto	M25	7 miles	S 	
    Reigate
    00:17	At M25 J12 M3 J2 turn off onto	M3	34 miles	W 	
    (M3 J3)
    00:52	At M3 J8 turn off onto	A303	19 miles	W 	
    *Check access*
    01:12	At Thruxton stay on the	A303	20 miles	SW	
    (Cholderton)
    01:33	At Wylye stay on the	A303	18 miles	SW	
    (Mere)
    01:55	At Bourton stay on the	A303	44 miles	W 	
    (Wincanton)
    02:46	Go onto	A30	18 miles	SW	(Ottery St Mary)
    03:10	At Exeter Airport stay on the	A30	2 miles	W 	(M5
    J29)
    03:12	At M5 J29 turn left onto	M5	5 miles	S 	
    *Check access*
    03:17	At M5 J31 go onto	A38	40 miles	SW	
    (Newton Abbot)
    03:57	Turn off onto	A374	4 miles	S 	Plymouth
    04:01	ARRIVE Plymouth (Devonshire)				
    
    213 Miles
    
    Best Regards,
    
    Ian
    
                                                    
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| 785.63 | Reading to Shrewsbury | CHEFS::UKSTATIONERY |  | Fri Jun 30 1995 09:18 | 5 | 
|  |     Help!
    
    Can someone advise me as to the quickest route from Reading to Shrewsbury
    (Shropshire), don't care about if Motorways or not, don't like traffic
    on M5/6/42 in Brum. Leaving Reading approx. 5pm tonight. Cheers dickie.
 | 
| 785.64 |  | RIOT01::SUMMERFIELD | I am Number 6 | Fri Jun 30 1995 09:52 | 14 | 
|  |     re .63
    
    Hmmmm, Reading to Shrewsbury, avoiding Brum. Ok.
    
    Reading M4 to Swindon
    Swindon A417 to Cirencester
    Cirencester A419 to Gloucester
    Gloucester M5 to Birmingham
    Then M54 to Telford
    Then A5 to Shrewsbury
    
    The M5 in Brum won't be too bad by the time you get there.
    
    Clive
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| 785.65 |  | CHEFS::UKSTATIONERY |  | Fri Jun 30 1995 10:07 | 5 | 
|  |     Thanks,
    
    How about a route just avoiding M5/M6 interchange without going round
    the houses. cheers.
    
 | 
| 785.66 | This one's easy to remember | BBPBV1::WALLACE | dtn 841 3425 | Fri Jun 30 1995 11:05 | 1 | 
|  |     M40 north, M42 north, A5 West.
 | 
| 785.67 |  | MUGGER::WILLIAMSH | Huw Williams.  Digital Warrington | Fri Jun 30 1995 12:43 | 16 | 
|  | Before the M40 was built, the way I used to go to Shrewsbury was:
M4 & via Cirencester to M5 (roadworks in Gloucester at the moment though!)
turn off M5 at Worcester North, and up the dual Carriageway to 
Kidderminster
at Kidderminster follow the ring road all the way round and follow signs for 
Telford, and take the A mumble to Bridgnorth.
At Bridgnorth follow signs to Shrewsbury. 
A shorter run than going through Brum, and would take 1 hour from M5 Worcester
to Shrewsbury.
Huw. 
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| 785.68 | Roight at the loights. | CHEFS::UKSTATIONERY |  | Fri Jun 30 1995 15:51 | 3 | 
|  |     Thanks for the information. Anyone know of any major roadworks on M40,
    M6/M5/M42 around Birmingham area tonight?
    
 | 
| 785.69 |  | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Fri Jun 30 1995 16:50 | 10 | 
|  |     
    There were some signs on the M5 on monday saying that a stretch would
    be closed between certain hours on one particular day. The problem is I
    can't remember which stretch, which day or which hours - I was on my
    way back from Glastonbury and joined the M5 at Struod though, so it's
    North of there.
    
    Perhaps the AA can help ?
    
    Graham
 | 
| 785.70 | Thanks | CHEFS::UKSTATIONERY |  | Mon Jul 03 1995 09:04 | 3 | 
|  |     In the end we went M40/M42/M5 off at Stourbridge up the A(Mumble) to
    Bridgnoth and then onto Shrewsbury, with no hold ups. dickie
    
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| 785.71 | Holyhead to Swindon and return. | 41318::KING |  | Fri Jan 05 1996 16:13 | 7 | 
|  |     I am looking for the best route from Holyhead to Swindon.I will be 
    travelling from Holyhead on a Sunday and returning Friday afternoon.
    What is the approx driving time and distance.
    
    
    				Regards,
    					Tim.
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| 785.72 |  | RIOT01::SUMMERFIELD | Collecting clouds before the son-light | Fri Jan 05 1996 16:59 | 16 | 
|  | From memory....
A5 from Holyhead, then
A55 towards Chester, then
M56 towards Manchester, then
M6 southbound, then
M5 southbound to Gloucester, then
A40 towards Gloucester, then
A419 towards Cirencester, then
A417 to Swindon.
As a variation, you could try A5, A55, then A483/A5 to
Shrewsbury/Telford, then M54 to M6, then as above.
hth
Clive
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| 785.73 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | whose file is it anyway? | Wed Apr 03 1996 13:43 | 7 | 
|  |     Can anyone with routemaster (or smartarse) give me a route from the
    centre of Reading to Wymondham, Norfolk avoiding Motorways as much
    as possible.
    
    Thanks
    
    dickie.
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| 785.74 | From AutoRoute Express | CHEFS::EASTON_H | Howard Easton @NEW | Wed Apr 03 1996 14:03 | 35 | 
|  | Time	Instruction		Road	Dist	 Dir	Towards
00:00	DEPART Reading (Berkshire) 
	on the			A4155	1/4 mile S 	
00:00	Bear right onto		A4	10 miles S 	Maidenhead
00:16	Turn left onto		Unnamed	1 mile	 N 	
00:19	Go onto			A404	7 miles	 N 	High Wycombe
00:26	At High Wycombe turn 
	off onto		A40	1 mile	 N 	(Stokenchurch)
00:28	Turn off onto		A4128	8 miles	 E 	(Gt Missenden)
00:37	At Gt Missenden stay on 
	the			A4128	1/2 mile E 	
00:38	Turn left onto		A413	6 miles	 NW	Aylesbury
00:44	At Wendover bear left 
	onto			A4011	2 miles	 N 	
00:47	Turn right onto		A41	2 miles	 E 	
00:49	At Tring turn left onto	B486	1 mile	 N 	
00:52	Turn right onto		B488	3 miles	 NE	(Linslade)
00:57	At Ivinghoe turn right 
	onto			B489	7 miles	 NE	Dunstable
01:13	At Dunstable turn left 
	onto			A5	1/2 mile NW	Leighton Buzzard
01:15	Turn right onto		A5120	9 miles	 NE	(Ampthill)
01:31	At Flitwick stay on the	A5120	1 mile	 N 	
01:33	Turn right onto		A507	13 miles E 	(Clophill)
01:49	At Stotfold stay on the	A507	3 miles	 E 	Baldock
01:53	At Baldock turn left 
	onto			A505	22 miles E 	(Royston)
02:16	Turn left onto		A11	9 miles	 N 	(Bottisham)
02:26	Go onto			A45	8 miles	 N 	Bury St Edmunds
02:32	Turn off onto		A11	13 miles N 	(Mildenhall)
02:47	At Elveden stay on the	A11	26 miles NE	Thetford
03:22	Turn left onto		B1135	1/4 mile NW	(Wymondham)
03:22	ARRIVE Wymondham (Norfolk)		 		
    
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| 785.75 |  | PLAYER::BROWNL | Hissing Sid is innocent! | Wed Apr 03 1996 14:29 | 3 | 
|  |     The A45 is now called the A14.
    
    Laurie.
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| 785.76 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | whose file is it anyway? | Wed Apr 03 1996 14:29 | 1 | 
|  |     Many thanks...dickie.
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| 785.77 |  | CBHVAX::CBH | Mr. Creosote | Wed Apr 03 1996 14:59 | 4 | 
|  | Dungstable is a bit of a tedious place to drive through... I'd suggest 
avoiding it if you're going at a busy time of day.
Chris.
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| 785.78 | Edinburgh to Nottingham ? | IOSG::KALUS |  | Tue May 07 1996 15:48 | 9 | 
|  |     What's the quickest way to get from Edinburgh to Nottingham
    (CenterParks in Sherwood Forest) next Monday?
    
    The shortest route looks like the A68 etc, but is it faster to go over
    to Glasgow and then down to pick up the M6, which uses the motorways
    more?
    
    Thanks,
    Chris.
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| 785.79 |  | TRUCKS::BEATON_S | I Just Look Innocent | Wed May 08 1996 13:31 | 15 | 
|  |     The most scenic is the A1 down the east coast.... The fastest is
    probably the M6/M1 route.
    
    The other advantage of the A1 is that if you do meet with a "blockage"
    it's usually easier to drive around it (and discover parts of England
    that hardly anyone ever sees in the process).
    
    There's also things like bends and roundabouts to entertain you as
    opposed to the conveyer belt stylee offered by the M6/M1.
    
    Have a good holiday whichever route you choose.
    
    Reargards,
    
    Stephen
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| 785.80 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | The file of Riley | Mon Jun 03 1996 11:40 | 7 | 
|  |     Can someone with autoroute find out the quickest route from Reading to
    Grimsby, avoiding at all costs the M25 (journey taking place from 18:00
    on Friday)
    
    thanks
    
    dickie.
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| 785.81 |  | TRUCKS::BEATON_S | I Just Look Innocent | Mon Jun 03 1996 12:10 | 1 | 
|  |     Possibly A34-A43-M1-M18-M180
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| 785.82 |  | WOTVAX::DODD |  | Mon Jun 03 1996 12:58 | 7 | 
|  |     I'd try
    
    A34-M40-A46-M69-M1-M18-M180
    
    I think it's the A46 loops round warwick and joins up with M69?
    
    Andrew
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| 785.83 |  | RIOT01::SUMMERFIELD | Sic Transit Gloria Mundi | Mon Jun 03 1996 14:13 | 5 | 
|  |     A better alternative is
    
    A34-M40-M42-A42-M1-M18-M180.
    
    Clive
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| 785.84 | Quickest route. | CHEFS::JAMESH | Left Handed People are SUPER Natural | Mon Jun 03 1996 14:17 | 13 | 
|  |     Get onto the M40 until Junction 11.
    At J11 turn off onto the A422 for half a mile toward Banbury then right
    onto A361 towards Badby. 
    After 15 miles turn left onto A45 for 1 mile then right onto A425 for 2
    miles.
    Turn left onto A361 to Kilsby then onto A5 towards Hinckley for a mile.
    Turn right onto A428 for 2 miles then join the M1 at J18 for 80 miles.
    At M1 J32 turn onto M18 towards Thorne for 20 miles.
    At M18 J5 turn onto M180 for 26 miles towards Belton.
    At M180 J5 turn onto A180 for 15 miles then onto A1136 into Grimsby.
    Stop at first fish shop for refreshments.
    Distance 223 miles.   Journey time 3 hrs. 58 mins.
           
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| 785.85 |  | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Fri Jul 26 1996 11:16 | 8 | 
|  |     Anyone have any recommendations (maybe Autoroute) on how to get from
    Newbury to Louth (Lincs)?  I have a vague idea about toddling up the
    M1, coming off around Leicester, then wandering up past Lincoln.
    
    
    Cheers!
    
    Mikef
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| 785.86 | The man from Autoroute says.... | COMICS::CORNEJ | What's an Architect? | Fri Jul 26 1996 12:32 | 58 | 
|  |     Mike,
    
    My Autoroute is getting a bit old now - check this on a map!
    
    Jc
     
                                AutoRoute Express V2.0
    
    Quickest route from Newbury to Louth
    
    Time 3 hrs 38 min. Distance 188 miles. 
    
    -----+--------------------------+--------+---------+---+----------------------+-
    Time |                          |Road    |For      |Dir|Towards              
    | 
    -----+--------------------------+--------+---------+---+----------------------+-
    00:00|DEPART Newbury (Berkshire)|A34     |40 miles |N  |Abingdon             
    |
    00:44|At M40 J9 turn off onto   |M40     |16 miles |N  |(Gaydon)             
    |
    00:57|At M40 J11 turn off onto  |A422    |1/2 mile |W  |Banbury              
    |
    00:58|Turn right onto           |A361    |9 miles  |N  |                     
    |
    01:10|At Byfield stay on the    |A361    |2 miles  |N  |(Charlwelton)        
    |
    01:12|At Charlwelton stay on the|A361    |4 miles  |NE |(Badby)              
    |
    01:17|Turn left onto            |A45     |1 mile   |W  |                     
    |
    01:18|Turn right onto           |A425    |2 miles  |NE |                     
    |
    01:20|Turn left onto            |A361    |6 miles  |N  |(Kilsby)             
    |
    01:27|At Kilsby go onto         |A5      |1 mile   |N  |Hinckley             
    |
    01:28|Turn right onto           |A428    |2 miles  |E  |                     
    |
    01:30|At M1 J18 turn left onto  |M1      |19 miles |N  |(Alfreton)           
    |
    01:46|At M1 J21 M69 J3 turn off |A46     |5 miles  |E  |Leicester            
    |
    01:54|Bear left onto            |A6      |1 mile   |N  |Loughborough         
    |
    01:55|Go onto                   |A46     |57 miles |N  |(Syston)             
    |
    03:09|Turn left onto            |A158    |9 miles  |E  |Skegness             
    |
    03:19|At Wragby turn left onto  |A157    |3 miles  |NE |(Louth)              
    |
    03:23|At Barkwith stay on the   |A157    |12 miles |N  |(Louth)              
    |
    03:38|ARRIVE Louth (Lincs)      |        |         |   |                     
    |
    -----+--------------------------+--------+---------+---+----------------------+-
    
                                            
                                            
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| 785.87 | Cheers! | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Fri Jul 26 1996 13:11 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 785.88 |  | RIOT01::SUMMERFIELD | Sic Transit Gloria Mundi | Fri Jul 26 1996 14:56 | 10 | 
|  |     How about...
    
     A34 to M40 J9
     M40 to M40 J10
     A43 to Stamford
     A16 to Louth
    
    Just a thought.
    
    Clive
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| 785.89 |  | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Mon Aug 05 1996 09:42 | 10 | 
|  |     Big favour time...
    
    Could anyone with Autoroute tell me the distance between Kingsclere
    (Berks) (or Newbury would do), and Stevenage?  Preferably using the
    M3/M25 route? 
    
    Mucho thaks in advance!
    
    
    mikef
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| 785.90 | re .89 | CHEFS::ROBERTSK | MEC Europe : SEE Business Development | Mon Aug 05 1996 10:50 | 8 | 
|  |     Only from Newbury I'm afraid ...
    
    M4�M25�A405�A414�A1(M)�A602 gives 82 miles
    or
    A34�A339�A30�A33�M3�M25�A405�A414�A1(M)�A602 gives 91 miles
    (take off a couple, used Basingstoke as stop over :-) )
    
    -Keith
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| 785.91 |  | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Mon Aug 05 1996 10:52 | 3 | 
|  |     Thanks!
    
    mikef
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| 785.92 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | dickie. Marmite. Nein Danke | Tue Oct 08 1996 09:47 | 4 | 
| 785.93 | Sorry - my Autoroute is at home today | COMICS::CORNEJ | What's an Architect? | Tue Oct 08 1996 12:03 | 4 | 
| 785.94 | No AutoRoute, ... | TAEC::SMITH | Martin Smith, Valbonne. - 828 5128 | Tue Oct 08 1996 12:18 | 6 | 
| 785.95 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | dickie. Marmite. Nein Danke | Tue Oct 08 1996 12:20 | 3 | 
| 785.96 |  | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy, living in a Dilbert world | Tue Oct 08 1996 16:34 | 3 | 
| 785.97 | M4 to LHR = Bad News | TAEC::SMITH | Martin Smith, Valbonne. - 828 5128 | Wed Oct 09 1996 10:12 | 7 | 
| 785.98 |  | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy, living in a Dilbert world | Wed Oct 09 1996 12:16 | 1 | 
| 785.99 | Maybe avoid the M25 until after the M23 junction? | MILE::JENKINS |  | Wed Oct 09 1996 14:04 | 17 | 
| 785.100 |  | 43626::GOLDY | Politically incorrectable | Wed Oct 09 1996 14:20 | 3 | 
| 785.101 |  | WOTVAX::DODD |  | Wed Oct 09 1996 14:28 | 4 | 
| 785.102 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | dickie. Marmite. Nein Danke | Wed Oct 09 1996 14:34 | 7 | 
| 785.103 |  | COMICS::CORNEJ | What's an Architect? | Thu Oct 10 1996 11:27 | 4 | 
| 785.104 |  | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | Bearer of knackered golden dog | Thu Oct 10 1996 11:38 | 4 | 
| 785.105 | Munich => Zeebrugge | RTOMS2::ADAMSONC | [email protected] | Mon Dec 16 1996 13:21 | 7 |