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| 631.4 | Volvo 480 ES  Info requested | HEART::DIDCOCK |  | Wed Nov 27 1991 11:06 | 10 | 
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    	My girlfriend is thinking of buying a second hand Volvo 480es.
    I gather they aren't that quick (not in itself a bad thing), and seem
    to be very expensive second hand.   Anyone offer any other information
    on the car?   I would guess service and insurance costs are
    considerable but I don't really know.
    
    	Thanks for any info,
    
    Cliff
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| 631.5 | dir/tit= | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | There are always options | Wed Nov 27 1991 13:16 | 12 | 
|  |     Cliff, maybe your new to this conference. If you have a query on a
    particular type of car its a good idea to do a "dir/tit" to see if
    theres already a topic before starting a new one.
    
    DIR/TITLE=480 reveals -
    
     160  AYOV27::ISMITH       17-MAY-1988     1  Volvo 480 ES concealed badges
     631  WOTVAX::HATTOS        5-JUN-1989     3  Volvo 480 opinions ?
    
    Check out #631
    
    Roy
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| 631.6 | HUH !! | SUBURB::GROOMN | I drank the World Cup dry | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:07 | 3 | 
|  |     Roy,
    
    This IS 631 !!!
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| 631.7 | Naw it doesnae rhyme wi' cludgae either | WELCLU::NISBET | Dougie Nisbet @WLO 7 853 4334 | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:08 | 4 | 
|  |     Re -.1 
    
    ermmmmmmm, maybe I'm missing something but, isn't Cliff ... well
    ....what I'm trying to say is ... I mean, this IS 631 isn't it?
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| 631.8 | Moderator Action | VOGON::MORGAN | Capt. Fabby Face | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:09 | 4 | 
|  |     I moved both note from 1613.
    
    Rich
    
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| 631.9 | relative offset | WELCLU::NISBET | Dougie Nisbet @WLO 7 853 4334 | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:10 | 6 | 
|  |     Re -.1
    
    should now be -.2
    
    but by the time this note is entered, it will probably be -3. Don't you
    just hate it when Notes go too fast?
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| 631.10 | see? | WELCLU::NISBET | Dougie Nisbet @WLO 7 853 4334 | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:10 | 1 | 
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| 631.11 |  | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | There are always options | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:43 | 3 | 
|  |     Sorry for the confusion guys :-)
    
    Roy
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| 631.12 |  | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | There are always options | Wed Nov 27 1991 14:58 | 7 | 
|  |     I was just thinking. If Cliff (author of .4) does not use "next unseen"
    and is checking his original note (1613) for replies he'll be in for a
    shock cos his note won't be there.
    
    I wonder if Mr mod kindly mailed him ?
    
    Roy
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| 631.13 | He did !! | VOGON::MORGAN | Capt. Fabby Face | Wed Nov 27 1991 16:24 | 1 | 
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| 631.14 |  | GVA01::STIFF | Paul Stiff, DSSR, DTN:821-4167 | Thu Nov 28 1991 07:18 | 24 | 
|  |     Well you haven't had that much info yet.....
    
    I drive a 440 GLT, which I believe is similar mechanically and probably
    performance wise.
    
    - Get one with power steering if you can, Volvos tend to be a little
      heavy at the wheel.
    
    - Performance is actually quite good, but not in the GTi category.
      (enough for me...).
    
    - Look out for rattles...
    
    - Ski rack : will cost you around Sfr 900.-- (�330 !) because not only
      is the original equipment rach expensive, but mountings need to be
      fitted to the roof and will be 4.5 hours work. This issue is
      particular to the 480 only.
    
    - Parts are expensive for Volvos, and at least here in Switzerland the
      garages charge through the nose - services cost about double what my
      brother pays on his 16v Golf GTi.
    
    Paul
    Paul 
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| 631.15 |  | NEWOA::ALFORD_J | The intermission fish... | Thu Nov 28 1991 09:14 | 7 | 
|  | >    - Parts are expensive for Volvos, and at least here in Switzerland the
>      garages charge through the nose - services cost about double what my
>      brother pays on his 16v Golf GTi.
    
About the same as a Golf in this country then....both "through the nose"
:-)
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| 631.16 | The best | REPAIR::CABEL |  | Wed Jul 22 1992 11:54 | 38 | 
|  |     I had one of the very first 480s , very good , but buying very firsts
    of anything means that the tech. gremlins havent been sorted out , to
    the full .
    
    A) On the speedo , being electronicly controled , after about 25,000mls
       the needle started to go crazy , took it down the the garage and 
       they fixed it free of charge(warrenty) . It turns out that the 
       conection between the clocks and box has an N-LOCK type connector
       on it and that the solder on it melted away .
    
    
    B) After the same distance , the clutch was badly warped , which was
       also done under warrentie .
    
    
    However safe is what the car is . One day driving back from Devon , 
    the weather was tipical British , wet , I was doing about 70mph , when
    this car came from the left lane straight to the right(3 lanes) and 
    hitting me in the proccese . The out came was :-
    
    VOLVO 480ES - Broken wing mirror
                  Dented door , mouldings missing
                  Dented in front wing .
                  (not alot but looked realy bad)
    
    FORD SERRIA - Smashed in front end
                  Front wing missing
                  Dented door , broken window & mirror
                  Bent chassie & collapsed front strut .
    
    
    
    Over all the car is built like a tank .
    
    
    
             From one driver to another .
                                           ed
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| 631.17 | 480 T with experience | UTROP1::SCHUURMANS_H |  | Tue Nov 17 1992 12:37 | 9 | 
|  |     It's almost time to turn in my 480 turbo; after 1.5 year and approx.
    110.000 km.
    It was really fun to drive this car (it has a lot of features that come
    with the car - e.g. seat heating, boardcomputer etc.- whereas with
    other makes you have to pay for these).
    No SINGLE problem during the time I drove the car. It is swift and save
    and it is at least not a car you see by dozens when you'rec driving.
    
    
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| 631.18 | wishful thinking | LARVAE::PARSONS_C |  | Thu Jan 21 1993 12:54 | 10 | 
|  |     
    
    IF my mun bought a 480 ES,( about F reg) doya think anyone would insure 
    me as a named driver at 21? (driving 3 yrs, NCB=0)
    
    If so how much?
    
    Clare
    
    
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